Ebay dodgy vendors

[9fingers]

few weeks back I ordered a replacement backing pad for my ROS as the original rubber had started to fall apart.

The listing said "UK Stock" complete with a Union Jack but it took over a week to arrive and the vendor turned out to be a relative of Wun Hung Lo with a Chinese address. Due to the delivery delay, by the time it arrived the option to leave less than positive feedback was open so I left neutral feedback along the lines of "item ok but dishonest seller claiming UK stock be sent from China and slow delivery.

This morning an email from the vendor arrived offering £4 refund if I'd rate them as 5 stars. Obviously a fine upstanding honourable business man!!

I've replied that I will withdraw my feedback if he gives a full refund. Awaiting a response. If he does not want to play then I can add to my feedback that he tried to bribe me to lie about the transaction.

Bob

 

[RogerS]

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I've replied that I will withdraw my feedback if he gives a full refund. Awaiting a response. If he does not want to play then I can add to my feedback that he tried to bribe me to lie about the transaction.

Bob

Good for you, Bob. I've had a few like that. You could report him to eBay as if he said location was UK and it wasn't....but (a) eBay may/may not do anything depending on how much business he pushes their way.

Why neutral anyway ? I'd have given negative ...unsurprisingly.

 

[9fingers]

Well the product was fine. I've not had much luck with reporting vendors for their behavior/integrity.
However, reporting defective goods when the vendor won't help always works well for me.

Bob

 

[Trevanion]

I’ve left negative feedback before for these Chinese-based sellers who claim to be in the UK and they always fully refund the purchase because they have no facilities here to process and accept returns to which means it’ll have to go back to China at their cost for mega money. At first they offer to knock off X amount, when you refuse that they’ll knock it down to half price, refuse that and you’ll get a full refund

 

[RogerS]

I’ve left negative feedback before for these Chinese-based sellers who claim to be in the UK and they always fully refund the purchase because they have no facilities here to process and accept returns to which means it’ll have to go back to China at their cost for mega money. At first they offer to knock off X amount, when you refuse that they’ll knock it down to half price, refuse that and you’ll get a full refund

Worked for me in the past as well.

Just tell them you're returning it as faulty.

 

[Artiglio]

When you here reports of whole streets having had companies registered at their addresses and the inevitable letters from hmrc etc after, it’s the likes of these chinese traders getting round the rules to appear as uk traders. Another facet of the chinese quest for global domination and why genuine uk traders struggle, quite how you work out who is who is beyond me.

 

[Lons]

Yes, I've had the same experience several times and on two occasions with Amazon as well. Ebay don't take any action whatsoever, just pay lip service and in any case many of these sellers have multiple accounts. Some are easy to spot others more difficult. I try to avoid them when I can but for some items there is little choice unless you are prepared to pay much higher prices.

 

[RogerS]

Yes, I've had the same experience several times and on two occasions with Amazon as well. Ebay don't take any action whatsoever, just pay lip service and in any case many of these sellers have multiple accounts. Some are easy to spot others more difficult. I try to avoid them when I can but for some items there is little choice unless you are prepared to pay much higher prices.

And which is why you play them at their own game. If you suspect that it is sourced from China then rject it as faulty....go through the rigmarole fo "We'll give you 5 % 10% 20% discount' until finally you get it for free ! :eusa-dance:

 

[9fingers]

I think I got the last laugh with this and the vendor did not benefit in the way they had hoped

A full refund turned up with an invitation to change the feedback which I did to a very cursory "ok item"

But as the transaction is zero value, Ebay have removed the transaction from my feedback list so the vendor does not benefit and of course my item did not cost me anything.

Hmm! seems like the dishonesty has passed to me now as I have an item without having paid for it and the vendor is still listing as UK stock.
C'est la vie
Bob

 

[RogerS]

But you have paid for it in your 'time' spent sorting it out.

 

[HappyHacker]

I got caught ordering a car part from a UK site (not via ebay) that stocks a fantastic range of stuff but it is based in Germany and the parts are sent from there but it was not clear on the website. Once I realised where it is coming from I went back to the site and did manage to find an indication that it would be shipped from Germany but took a lot of finding.

My son in law also got caught by the same company when he required a part urgently and then they managed to send the wrong part in the right outer packing.

 

[SamQ aka Ah! Q!]

Stepping away from Sinophobia, just for a second, Lons and I have discovered a rich vein of scamming in Farcepuke Muck-it-up-place. Scrotus maximus fossicks around the net, picks up multiple adverts for nice cars, boats and motorhomes. Recently finished sales I suspect. He/she/it then reposts the photos with superficially correct descriptions** and at a WHOPPING bargain price; about 25-40% of what you would expect to pay, and this is where it gets nasty, via hijacked (and therefore unsuspecting?) Facebook account holders pages.

How does this get what RogerS calls "Knuckle dragging...oxygen..." his/her/its money? Seems that you firstly make contact. How they manage to intercept messages sent to the real F.B. page owner I dont know, but you are then decieved into making a deposit for an unseen desirable object: "It's so popular, I have six people lined up to see it, but if you want to make a deposit, its yours!" type of spiel.

Bob (Lons) and I identified just under a dozen very quickly last weekend. Casting my digital net a little further (Ha! See what I did there?), the likes of Which and Trading Standards appear to be aware of the illegitimate turd weevils who conduct said scams. They quoted one poor bloke who drove from the South Coast to the Midlands, only to find no gold at the end of the rainbow. F.B., Meta, Suckerberg (sorry, Freudian slip) do not appear to give a continental double-damn and seem utterly incompetent at spotting, then eliminating S.m.s from their pages. It can't be hard if two around-70 pensioners - with no great didgital prowess - can suss them out easily.

**(though often with a tell-tale error, eg. motorhome engine size: "1.0L").

 

[RogerS]

..... Suckerberg (sorry, Freudian slip) ....

Correct. The approved spelling has 'F 'as the first letter.

 

[Lons]

**(though often with a tell-tale error, eg. motorhome engine size: "1.0L").

I later saw a Tesla advertised as having a diesel engine Sam. :? :lol:
There was a spate of scammers offering machines from Dewalt, Makita etc at £78 when they would be more like £700 but they seem to have died down a bit.

That said facebook is still useful with care, I bought a heavy duty platform ladder a couple of weeks ago and had to travel into the Scottish Borders to collect. £140 when it costs £600 new was excellent value for me, of course I didn't pay a deposit and it turned out the seller was a great bloke and perfectly genuine.