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Eco house economics

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BBC Breakfast featured this Eco House that has just won an award. It costs £15 a year to run for heat, electricity etc. Nothing special about it that I can see that Mike G hasn't already done/advocated apart from maybe floating the entire house on insulation.

Thing is the eco stuff cost £40,000 according to the architect Colin Usher. Which, leaving aside the benefits to the planet, is one hell of a long payback period surely?

I also wonder just how much of that £15 is down to an electricity rebate from the Govt(which can always change ie disappear).

Interested to hear Mike's thoughts on this.
 
I'm guessing this house hasn't got a workshop attached running 3 phase machinery Roger :eusa-whistle: :lol:

I think I pay more than £15 a year standing charge on my electric meter, so clearly things are being off set against any total cost, in which case like statistics any answer is possible or perhaps I'm just a cynic :eusa-think:
 
Strip out subsidy and let's see what the figures look like. I'd be much more interested to see the energy performance figures.

The whistles and bells of "eco-builds", such as photovotaic panels, fancy ground source heat pumps, and so on, are where the money is spent..........and you'll note that I don't bother with them. I focus entirely on reducing demand, particularly for heating, rather than on meeting that reduced demand with capital-intensive equipment. Insulation is cheap, and properly done will leave you in a potential sledgehammer/ nut situation. In other words, tiny demand, so what's the point of a big bit of expensive kit to meet that demand? The only two bits of kit that I ever put in my houses which don't go in most people's new build are a whole house ventilation system with heat recovery, and solar hot water panels (each £2-3,000).
 
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