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Neither I nor LOML are rarely out amongst people for any length of time. The odd shopping trip but a quick in and out. So Covid passed us by.

Last Friday was the day where I spent a large part of the morning with the Highways guy. Rather than walk the route I sat with him in his van. You can see where this is going. I was a bloody fool as he must have been asymptomatic. I could so, so easily have avoided catching Covid if I’d just walked the route. Just didn’t think.

Looks like I may have given it to LOML which is not good. Not good at all
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Take care, folks
 
Sorry to hear Roger, but unless you were both going to continue being hermits it was inevitable, at least the sting has gone from the original Covid, not nearly so bad now. I have had it three times, unpleasant but much less so than the original, I had Flu 40 years ago and that was much much worse than Covid. Ian
 
Not so good Roger.
Nearly a year since we had it and both very ill.
Our clinic & frail care unit are now in lockdown, till next week.
 
From others I know of, symptoms seem much milder in those who have been jabbed than those that have not.
We have both had it but a few days of feeling cr4p and no lasting problems thankfully despite us both being classed as vulnerable.
 
Best wishes to you both Roger, hopefully only mild symptoms. Covid is a sneaky little bu**er and was bound to get you eventually.
 
9fingers said:
From others I know of, symptoms seem much milder in those who have been jabbed than those that have not.
We have both had it but a few days of feeling cr4p and no lasting problems thankfully despite us both being classed as vulnerable.
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Both in-laws have experience likewise in the past 12 months. Fully jabbed, both over 90, no more than heavy colds.
 
It's a very different disease now, Roger. You should be fine after a day or two. The original covid in an un-jabbed population was horrible. Truly horrible. I've had it twice since, and it was more on the scale of an ordinary cold. I know that isn't the case universally, and the immuno-compromised should be in touch with their doctor, but thank your lucky stars you're getting it in 2024 not 2020.
 
Theres an awful lot of it about it seems.

Both me Mrs E and have just had it for the second time (a couple of weeks ago, still shaking off the last of the symptoms) but as others have said, it's mostly just rotten cold symptoms for few days, followed by a long tail of frustrating, but not serious, fatigue and conjestion.

Seems like half the population in our local town have either got it, or just had it right now, so its very hard to avoid.
 
It's never going away and as many have said it's much less severe now. I don't know whether to say you've done well to avoid it thus far, or whether that may make it worse if this is your first exposure... Fingers crossed you both have minimal impact.

I've had it twice for sure and both times was little more than a sore throat for 12 hours, headache for 24-48h then first time a bit of a cough for a week, second time torrent of snot for a week, but other than that no fatigue or anything like that.

Strong like bull! 🤷‍♂️ :ROFLMAO:
 
Actually, just revisiting this, do you KNOW you've got it, or assume? How do you know, tests? If so how old are they because I know that when I used the last of our old tests it showed me riddled, then I saw the date on them and got one from a friend that was in date and it was negative. The age of tests can give false positives, maybe just be a cold... 🤞
 
I chucked out a pile of old test kits last month, on the advice of the GP DiL.
Also she said some of the ones being retailed out there, are dodgy .
 
Cabinetman said:
Sorry to hear Roger, but unless you were both going to continue being hermits it was inevitable, at least the sting has gone from the original Covid, not nearly so bad now. I have had it three times, unpleasant but much less so than the original, I had Flu 40 years ago and that was much much worse than Covid. Ian
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Thanks Ian but we both like being hermits,! No relations and we don’t socialise very much.
 
TrimTheKing said:
Actually, just revisiting this, do you KNOW you've got it, or assume? How do you know, tests? If so how old are they because I know that when I used the last of our old tests it showed me riddled, then I saw the date on them and got one from a friend that was in date and it was negative. The age of tests can give false positives, maybe just be a cold... 🤞
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I bought a new test. Bloody T line went red almost immediately.

I know we’ve both done well not to have had it to date. Just that I’m bloody annoyed with myself as it could so easily have been avoided.. The good news is that I’ve got no appetite and not eaten for three days. Lost 2kg!
 
You need to add “highways guy” to the list of things that you hate, in your footer.
How is your Mrs?
 
RogerS said:
Neither I nor LOML are rarely out amongst people for any length of time. The odd shopping trip but a quick in and out. So Covid passed us by.

Last Friday was the day where I spent a large part of the morning with the Highways guy. Rather than walk the route I sat with him in his van. You can see where this is going. I was a bloody fool as he must have been asymptomatic. I could so, so easily have avoided catching Covid if I’d just walked the route. Just didn’t think.

Looks like I may have given it to LOML which is not good. Not good at all
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Take care, folks
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Bummer
 
I had COVID last week, and I'm about 90% better now. It's going around the UK quite a lot now, nearly everyone I speak to knows someone who's caught it (or has caught it themselves).
Was like a very bad cold, maybe not as bad as flu, bust close. The bad symptoms lasted 5 days for me, then a rapid improvement. Just lingering tiredness now
 
We are going to a family wedding on Friday, folks from all over the country are coming.
Have just checked out the pills and potions box ready for next week 😳
 
LOML doesn’t think that she has it. Fingers crossed.

She went into Boots to get some Rapidflow tests. She was in a long queue. The pharmacist said “I don’t think we have those any more. What’s it for?”. She replied “Covid” and behind her there was a collective intake of breath and the sound of feet rapidly shuffling backwards.😂

Another pharmacist came to his rescue and she got them eventually.
 
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I had COVID last week, and I'm about 90% better now. It's going around the UK quite a lot now, nearly everyone I speak to knows someone who's caught it (or has caught it themselves).
Was like a very bad cold, maybe not as bad as flu, bust close. The bad symptoms lasted 5 days for me, then a rapid improvement. Just lingering tiredness now
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This.
4th time last week - recovered now but feel real tired.
we work remotely but 2 colleagues have it (Nottingham and Lytham).
 
Roger, take care with recovery. COVID has a nasty effect on your immune system and leaves you vulnerable.

Secondly, something calling itself "the hundred day cough" (probably a blanket label) seems - anecdotally - to be especially good at piggy-backing on said vulnerability. I know Folks, in double figures, who believe they got '100-day' as a direct consequence of testing positive in preceding months.
 
My daughter had the '100 day cough' and she's 15, probably had it when she was 14, and it did last around 3 months. Few days of flu like symptoms then this 3 month cough which didn't hamper her but was incredibly annoying for her when she had an attack, of which she'd have two or three per day.

Thankfully no lasting effects, although I have found I get more minor sniffles than I've ever had in my life since lockdown, but personally (no science backing here) I put that down to months of little to no human contact depleting my immune system, which was once that of a large Ox!

Frustrating, none of the sniffles hit me hard but just annoyingly noticeable how much more often I have a runny hooter. Luckily I think I'm still fairly well immuned up though because as mentioned before, none of my Covid bouts have been more than a couple of days of headache and scratchy throat. 🤞
 
Fortunately so far neither of us has knowingly had it, or even a suspicion of it, despite having been in close contact (unknowingly) on several occasions. Had numerous 'phone calls from neighbours or via the local village grape vine to warn us about positive tests within hours and in some case minutes of contact. (folks with snuffles or headache going home and testing positive etc.)

We did abide by as strict an isolation regime as possible during the initial outbreaks supported by local help and limited food shopping excursions as things eased in supermarkets.

Likewise daughter who was working throughout the initial outbreak in daily contact with folks going down with it, likewise her son at university neither of which have had it or tested positive.

Family members in Germany all contracted it.

A younger cousin succumbed to it after some time on a ventilator in an induced coma.
 
Although SWIMBO wasn't working at SDH (Salisbury District Hospital) at the time she does now. Staff then working at the hospital during the initial Covid outbreak recounted grisly tales to her which made for very unpleasant listening. An interesting fact though is that the original part of the hospital built durning WW2 had dead straight corridors wide enough to drive a Willys jeep down, which they did - Rob
 
As you guys may have gathered this experience is all new to me and the missus. Unfortunately she’s now got it and I’m coming out of the twilight zone. But going forward…I get better, but do we need to both mask up still…could she reinfect me? Then me her later on…ping ponging between each other?
 
Masks are not all they are cracked up to be, certainly not the ones available to the public.
I imagine that you both have some immunity at least for a few months.
 
Going back to when we were going through the waves of it the advice was that the risk of catching the same variant more than once was virtually nil so hopefully no prospect of you reinfecting each other.

I’d find it quite an effort to manage the risk by avoiding contact with people. Has it made a noticeable difference to your social lives and do you miss anything Roger?
 
FWiW Roger whenever we have had it in the family, 4 or 5 of us living at home, it has never passed between us.
 
RogerS said:
As you guys may have gathered this experience is all new to me and the missus. Unfortunately she’s now got it and I’m coming out of the twilight zone. But going forward…I get better, but do we need to both mask up still…could she reinfect me? Then me her later on…ping ponging between each other?
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No is the short answer.
 
Blackswanwood said:
Going back to when we were going through the waves of it the advice was that the risk of catching the same variant more than once was virtually nil so hopefully no prospect of you reinfecting each other.

I’d find it quite an effort to manage the risk by avoiding contact with people. Has it made a noticeable difference to your social lives and do you miss anything Roger?
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We're both retired. We have no relatives to speak of. No family or children etc. Well, we're both pretty solitary. The missus considerably more than I as she doesn't participate in any online activities such as forums etc. She goes out once a week early morning shopping and that's it. Well, we've been grafting away at this house for an eternity it seems plus the weather is usually shite so no incentive to go out. We've got enough room and land to roam!

I used to pop down the local pub a couple of times a week to have a few and shoot the breeze but other than that I'd rarely socialise per se. Out shopping and foraging for wood and stuff for the house, that's all. Meet up with my fellow Northumbrian 'woodies' sometimes. But then Covid struck and so stopped going down to the pub. Then it closed. It will be re-opening soon but I doubt I'll bother to go down.
 
TrimTheKing said:
No is the short answer.
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Interesting. She's now done her own research (she's very good at it) and her conclusion is that it is possible to ping-pong. So seeing as I'm PNG (although she keeps her counsel, bless her), we'll go with PingPong. I still think she is in denial and has it but I'm keeping my head below the parapet on this one.

What I'm finding very interesting is experiencing how various parts of the body and brain start functioning properly as the virus finally gets kicked into touch. Not having any external distractions - such as work, children, pets etc - it's much easier to do this sort of navel gazing.
 
Interesting approaches. I got Covid right at the start. Prior to vaccinations becoming available. Nowadays I see several children and their parents every week as I teach classical piano and composing as a paid hobby. So they all mix with everything going and we sit right next to each other. Also we have restaurant guests and although I don't get so close them we still mix with quite a few new people. Have not had covid or anything else since the first episode. Susceptibility must vary but I don't worry about catching stuff. It's been ages since I have seen anyone wearing a mask except for the Japanese in London who were doing that on the tube long before covid.
 
I'd be so amazed that ping ponging is possible, I'd have to lie down until the feeling passed...😎.
You develop antibodies to infection ABC1. Your body retains about 3000 such molecules some months after infection (and will do for life) down from hundreds of millions the week after. Meeting infection ABC1 again, these boyos nuke it before it can take a grip.
That is conventional, Jenner-originating, epidemiological thinking.
There ARE some contemporary bugs you can catch several times, the genetically-mobile ones where ABC1 is now ABC1a, and COVID is one such. In this case, the 'fit' of antibodies against ABC1 is no longer guaranteed and your body needs to initiate T- and B- cell cloning to match the new intruder. It's a bit like swopping your lock barrel - you need a new 'key'.
I am no medic, nor epidemiologically proficient, but you could knock me down with a plate of soup if "ping-ponging" were anything but a YouTube conspiracy theory.
N.B. Yes, I am aware of the Italian doctor and her boyfriend that apparently re-infected each other - but there were so many other contributing factors, it was impossible to dissect out the facts.
 
AJB Temple said:
Interesting approaches. I got Covid right at the start. Prior to vaccinations becoming available. Nowadays I see several children and their parents every week as I teach classical piano and composing as a paid hobby. So they all mix with everything going and we sit right next to each other. Also we have restaurant guests and although I don't get so close them we still mix with quite a few new people. Have not had covid or anything else since the first episode. Susceptibility must vary but I don't worry about catching stuff. It's been ages since I have seen anyone wearing a mask except for the Japanese in London who were doing that on the tube long before covid.
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But, of course, none of them might have Covid when they see you.
 
SamQ aka Ah! Q! said:
I'd be so amazed that ping ponging is possible, I'd have to lie down until the feeling passed...😎.
You develop antibodies to infection ABC1. Your body retains about 3000 such molecules some months after infection (and will do for life) down from hundreds of millions the week after. Meeting infection ABC1 again, these boyos nuke it before it can take a grip.
That is conventional, Jenner-originating, epidemiological thinking.
There ARE some contemporary bugs you can catch several times, the genetically-mobile ones where ABC1 is now ABC1a, and COVID is one such. In this case, the 'fit' of antibodies against ABC1 is no longer guaranteed and your body needs to initiate T- and B- cell cloning to match the new intruder. It's a bit like swopping your lock barrel - you need a new 'key'.
I am no medic, nor epidemiologically proficient, but you could knock me down with a plate of soup if "ping-ponging" were anything but a YouTube conspiracy theory.
N.B. Yes, I am aware of the Italian doctor and her boyfriend that apparently re-infected each other - but there were so many other contributing factors, it was impossible to dissect out the facts.
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I agree with you, Sam. But I am a pragmatist and given that it's my fault that this has all kicked off then it's much easier to keep wearing my mask until such time as she is out of the woods (as far as can be ascertained w/o taking the test)
 
RogerS said:
But, of course, none of them might have Covid when they see you.
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Of course you are right Rog. And I would not expect people to visit when they know they are ill. Your post struck a chord though as one of my best pupils (she's 11) cancelled her lesson last week because her dad was ill and so couldn't bring her. They came yesterday morning for a make up lesson and he remarked that he was still getting over it. I actually asked him if he thought he had had covid and he said he didn't have a test kit. I suspect few people have a kit that is in date now. School age kids catch everything so the risks are higher I suppose. I think you were unlucky with van man. It was not foolish, just unfortunate.
 
The foolishness was in opening up the opportunity, Adrian.
 
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