• Hi all and welcome to TheWoodHaven2 brought into the 21st Century, kicking and screaming! We all have Alasdair to thank for the vast bulk of the heavy lifting to get us here, no more so than me because he's taken away a huge burden of responsibility from my shoulders and brought us to this new shiny home, with all your previous content (hopefully) still intact! Please peruse and feed back. There is still plenty to do, like changing the colour scheme, adding the banner graphic, tweaking the odd setting here and there so I have added a new thread in the 'Technical Issues, Bugs and Feature Requests' forum for you to add any issues you find, any missing settings or just anything you'd like to see added/removed from the feature set that Xenforo offers. We will get to everything over the coming weeks so please be patient, but add anything at all to the thread I mention above and we promise to get to them over the next few days/weeks/months. In the meantime, please enjoy!

Jeff Beck RIP

I agree. Never give up. I started playing when I was 14. Had been forbidden guitar by my father (no idea why) but by that time had passed much hated Grade 8 piano (after 8 or 9 years of forced practice twice a day) and was very much into rock music to their massive disapproval. Mostly I listened to this at my friends house as his dad was very relaxed and also had a Rover. :eusa-clap: I bought a Gibson SG copy originally, and plugged it into my Pioneer amp that I had saved up for from paper rounds as part of my bedroom hi fi. That guitar was promptly confiscated when they somehow found it under my bed (no idea what they did with it) but I then I bought a jumbo acoustic - which I still have for sentimental reasons - and they gave up. Guitar is way, way easier to play than classical piano, so I soon had a great time in various bands as practically all pop and rock can be covered (in some form) with 4 chords and 2 scales. You can get away with 1 scale if pushed :lol: If you get past the basics you become a local superstar :o . I was still useless at pulling girls though. I bet Jeff had no trouble.

Was unaware of sister Tharpe so thanks for that.
 
Yes, fully agree with Steve Hackett. He was a tapping pioneer and influenced lots of people with innovations. His parents were very into classical music and Steve has cited JS Bach as a major influence. But frankly, JSB has influenced everyone. The man was a genius.

I got to know Steve's successor quite well as his wife was super into dressage and friends with my horsey ex. Very nice bloke but not in Steve's league as a player. It seems like there was a whole generation of people who really learnt to play well. Now we have grime, hip hop, and of course shoegaze.
 
:lol: Indeed. He was a master of Danish Garage music on the organ.

Everything is derivative isn't it. It all started when some cave girl started banging a bone on a hollow skull. This led to John Bonham. Guitar probably started with bows and arrows. Twang that tune man.

(I am typing here because I am bored, having hurt my knee yesterday. I will go and do some work now).
 
Even out in the sticks we were fortunate in the late '60s and early '70s to get first class people in the small folk clubs. I saw Gordon Giltrap, Davy Graham, Stefan Grossman, Al Stewart, Ralph McTell, John Martyn (twice, I went to see him again while my friend went to see Magna Carta instead) and a few others. There is very little live now. I very much regret not see Yehudi Menuhin and Stéphane Grappelli when I had the chance.
 
You were lucky to see Davy Graham Phil. I saw some of those (and both of the ones you missed). Ralph McTell did the university circuit for years and I saw him at Oxford and with a girlfriend at Warwick. I always wanted to see Bert Jansch live but never managed it. One of the first acoustic guitar pieces I learned was his interpretation of Davy Graham's Anji, and I still play it today.

John Martyn was very skilled. All these great steel string acoustic players at that time were into alternative tunings, which oddly enough people are rediscovering today.
 
Phil Pascoe":3l4qawim said:
.......Al Stewart......
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What I wouldn't give for some intelligent Al-Stewart-type lyrics these days.
 
I still listen to Bedsitter Images, which I bought when I was fourteen. I went out with a girl for seven years from the age of seventeen, she had a sister called Denise - Denise at Sixteen always reminds me of her.
 
Mike G":2j4vf5yj said:
A commentator once said that Steve Waugh had to be the best all rounder in the world..........and the response from another commentator was that he wasn't even the best all rounder in his family. :lol:
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I always understood that that riposte was by Jimmy Ormond to a fairly unsubtle bit of sledging by Mark Waugh. 2001 Ashes.

Still these stories have a way of, erm, mutating over time.

Anyway, back to guitarists. They had a thing on an episode of ‘All the way from Memphis’ (R4 music quiz) where the panellists were asked to give an example of musicians that they ‘didn’t really get’. Beck falls into that category for me, I’m afraid.

The problem is, I suppose, distinguishing music that you like from those that are brilliant, but not really your thang.

However, (and some of these I don’t like), Mick Ronson, Edge, Van Halen, Prince, Nile Rodgers, Jonny Marr. All distinctive and, well, different. And inspired many imitators.

Mind you who can forget the towering guitar hero that was Andrew Ridgeley.

Anyway. Guitarists. Huh. Just using up space for their self-indulgent noodlings that would be better occupied by a sax solo.
 
Tiresias":v77c7ay2 said:
Mike G":v77c7ay2 said:
A commentator once said that Steve Waugh had to be the best all rounder in the world..........and the response from another commentator was that he wasn't even the best all rounder in his family. :lol:
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I always understood that that riposte was by Jimmy Ormond to a fairly unsubtle bit of sledging by Mark Waugh. 2001 Ashes.

Still these stories have a way of, erm, mutating over time.

Anyway, back to guitarists. They had a thing on an episode of ‘All the way from Memphis’ (R4 music quiz) where the panellists were asked to give an example of musicians that they ‘didn’t really get’. Beck falls into that category for me, I’m afraid.

The problem is, I suppose, distinguishing music that you like from those that are brilliant, but not really your thang.

However, (and some of these I don’t like), Mick Ronson, Edge, Van Halen, Prince, Nile Rodgers, Jonny Marr. All distinctive and, well, different. And inspired many imitators.

Mind you who can forget the towering guitar hero that was Andrew Ridgeley.

Anyway. Guitarists. Huh. Just using up space for their self-indulgent noodlings that would be better occupied by a sax solo.
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it sounds like you probably don't like guitar, and it's not for you.
 
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