• Hi all and welcome to TheWoodHaven2 brought into the 21st Century, kicking and screaming! We all have Alasdair to thank for the vast bulk of the heavy lifting to get us here, no more so than me because he's taken away a huge burden of responsibility from my shoulders and brought us to this new shiny home, with all your previous content (hopefully) still intact! Please peruse and feed back. There is still plenty to do, like changing the colour scheme, adding the banner graphic, tweaking the odd setting here and there so I have added a new thread in the 'Technical Issues, Bugs and Feature Requests' forum for you to add any issues you find, any missing settings or just anything you'd like to see added/removed from the feature set that Xenforo offers. We will get to everything over the coming weeks so please be patient, but add anything at all to the thread I mention above and we promise to get to them over the next few days/weeks/months. In the meantime, please enjoy!

Making Elaborate Kindling - Diary of an Inept Woodturner

Thanks, they look quite nice. I've tried the "slimline" push-click ones (and don't like them, but not because of the push-click), but I may give the streamline ones a go.

I mostly use GraphGear 1000 pencils, but it'd be nice to have some wooden bodied ones.
 
It was 5pm by the time we got back from the traffic-filled lands of the south-east of England, so I didn't get much workshop time today. I needed a little bit of quiet time though, so I thought I'd go and do a tiny bit. I started by marking the break lines on four of the blanks and using parting blades to turn those marks into grooves, much as I did last time:

2025-03-22-01-parting-marks_600.jpg


There's a spare oak blank there for when I inevitably mess something up; I've got some spare walnut as well (still in square section), but I've also got a walnut mill blank that hasn't actually been messed up yet: the lid has been turned but not the body. The lid isn't as nice as the two I finished a week or two ago, but it'll do if I mess up both the walnut blanks I've got prepped.

For a bit of an experiment, I thought I'd try using some 3D-printed cylindrical jaws. They worked remarkably well, with no hint of slipping even when drilling with a 45 mm Forstner bit:

2025-03-22-02-trying-plastic-jaws_600.jpg


I drilled the 45 mm pocket, then the 38 mm one and then used a 28 mm one for the peppercorn pocket this time (if you remember, I used 26 mm last time despite the instructions saying 24 or 25 mm). I can't see a reason why 28 would be a problem and a bigger cavity means more pepper storage.

I also used my home-made tool to cut the groove in the base of the mill:

2025-03-22-03-cutting-groove_600.jpg


At that point all the driving and plodding through traffic started to hit me and I decided it was time to open a bottle of Brains Dark and relax for a bit.

Iechyd da!
 
I dont think I've turned a pen for years, I did a hundred to raise money for a local cause. All finished in CA glue and BLO.
 
This morning I started by drilling out the top end of the base piece:

2025-05-23-01-drilling-top-end_600.jpg


I then repeated the previous steps on the lower parts of the other three blanks. For the first lid, I started by drilling and grooving...

2025-05-23-02-drilling-lid_600.jpg


... and then cut the tenon. It felt a bit precarious cutting the tenon (I couldn't afford to mess up the shoulder as the groove was already fixing the size). Therefore, on the other lids, I cut the tenon first...

2025-05-23-03-tenon-on-lid-first_600.jpg


... and once I was happy with it I drilled the hole and cut the groove:

2025-05-23-04-finished-top-boring_600.jpg


That gave me four blanks with the bores and tenons all complete:

2025-05-23-05-four-blanks-all-milled-one-shabby_600.jpg


You'll notice that the one on the left went a bit awry: that was the sort of thing that happens when I get a catch on the corner when trying to start a facing cut of a shoulder. Thankfully, the blank is about 70 mm diameter at the moment and it's going to be reduced to 43 mm in that area, so all that shabbiness will get turned away.

Once again I used my little dimension gauges (see an earlier post in this thread) to pick a few points for key dimensions and then I could use calipers and parting tool to bring those points down to about the right diameter:

2025-05-23-06-rough-shaping-lid_600.jpg


I used a spindle gouge to rough out the intermediate bits (I thought I'd got a photo of that stage but apparently not; however, you'll see one later in this post that gives the idea). I then used my "inept woodturner's saviour" tool to refine the shape:

2025-05-23-07-refined-shape-with-shear-tool_600.jpg


Finally, the lid was sanded:

2025-05-23-08-sanded_600.jpg


From that photo you can see some imperfections near the chuck. I sorted them out by moving the part out slightly from the chuck and doing a little more sanding. Ideally, the black acetal bush that holds the part would be less than the diameter of the part (to give access to the corner); I might make a new one if I can be bothered.

As I've now got two chucks, it's quite quick to have one set up with the O'Donnell jaws (and the acetal insert) and the other set up with my custom crushgrind internal-gripping jaws, so I decided to get on with the body rather than doing all the lids first. The body got mounted in the same was as before and pencil lines marked using the gauge as before:

2025-05-23-09-mounted-body_600.jpg


The parting tool then did it's thing:

2025-05-23-10-dimensioned_600.jpg


I mentioned before that I'd missed a photo of the stage after roughing it down with a spindle gouge. This is that stage on the body:

2025-05-23-11-spindle-gouge-roughing_600.jpg


The "inept woodturner's saviour" got it to this stage quite easily:

2025-05-23-12-refining-with-shear_600.jpg


It was sanded through the various grits to this stage:

2025-05-23-13-sanded_600.jpg


The final job was to do a trial fit with the lid:

2025-05-23-14-done_600.jpg


That showed it being a slightly tight fit, so while the body was still in the chuck I used some 320 grit sandpaper on the inside of the body to loosen it up ever so slightly. I've erred on the side of caution there; I can always remount it and give it another touch of sanding later if required.

At that point, my head was telling me to stop. I tend to wear a JSP Powercap air fed mask when I'm using the lathe. While it's infinitely better than the Trend Airshield Pro thing I bought first (and returned when I realised it didn't seal to my face and the optional-extra ear defenders sat away from my ears and did nothing: it seems Trend assume everyone has a perfectly spherical head), the noise of the fan running next to my head does tend to get to me after a while and there's only so long I can keep going without needing a decent break.

I'm not sure whether I'll get any workshop time before next weekend, but I'm pleased with how it went today. The shaping of the body went entirely according to plan; if I can repeat that success with the other three mills then I'll be very happy and will be able to call this project done.
 
My M33 tailstock live arbor arrived during the week, so I decided to try turning the next peppermill body using chuck support on both ends, using these jaws:

2025-03-28-01-two-chucks-and-chuck-arbor_600.jpg


Here it is mounted with the chucks supporting each end:

2025-03-28-02-mounted-on-two-chucks_600.jpg


The disadvantage of mounting it this way is that I have to use a short rest as the longer one would interfere with the chuck at the tailstock end. Nevertheless, it worked okay.

2025-03-28-03-roughed-out-with-short-rest_600.jpg


For roughing this one out, I started with the calipers and parting tool as before, then roughed the left-hand half down using the parting tool rather than switching to the spindle gouge. After doing that half though, I got fed up with getting showered in wood chips so I switched to the spindle gouge, which makes it easier to direct the shavings sideways. Once again, I used the inept woodturner's saviour (external shear scraper) to finesse the shape...

2025-03-28-04-slightly-smoother_600.jpg


... and then sandpaper to smooth it out.

2025-03-28-05-sanded_600.jpg


After sanding, I did a test fit of the lid and saw that I'd made the body a bit big for this lid (I think the lid is smaller than the other ones I've made)...

2025-03-28-06-too-big-needs-tweaking_600.jpg


... so a little tweaking was required; better now:

2025-03-28-07-better_600.jpg


For the last two mills, I went back to the previous method of tailstock support so that I could use the longer rest:

2025-03-28-08-back-to-normal-tailstock-support_600.jpg


With that all done, I've got four more mills that are looking okay:

2025-03-28-09-four-mills_600.jpg


They've had a first coat of oil; after the second one has gone on tomorrow, I'll insert the mechanisms and try them out.

2025-03-28-10-oiling_600.jpg


With all those mills done, I decided I'd reached my woodturning limit. I don't enjoy it anywhere near as much as other types of woodwork and there's only so much of it I can do before I get fed up with it. I've now hung the lathe back up and I spent the latter part of the afternoon sweeping up and putting stuff away and for the first time in ages I've got a clear main bench and clear portable workbench. The metalwork bench still has some clutter on it, but I can live with that for now. I simply don't have enough space any more to put everything away so it's pretty rare that both the metalwork and woodwork benches are clear.
 
A slightly delayed post as I hadn't got round to taking the last photo, but I've now finished all but one of the mills (and I'm not sure I can be bothered with yet another attempt in order to complete the set, so I think I'll leave it here for now).

After having a couple of coats of hard wax oil, the mills were ready for assembly with their mechanisms:

2025-03-30-01-four-mills-and-mechanisms_600.jpg


I used one of my home-made bar clamps to squeeze the mechanism into place. I used a lid (without it's mechanism fitted yet) to give the shaft somewhere to go and a bit of leather to make sure I didn't mark the lid. As before, a 3D-printed ring was used to press on the bottom of the mechanism:

2025-03-30-02-squeezing-in-mechanism_600.jpg


That all went fairly smoothly, apart from on one of the oak mills, where the body cracked:

2025-03-30-03-crack_600.jpg


I'd already cleared the lathe away and couldn't face the idea of another go, so I'm going to leave it at 5 mills. My primary aim was to make a second set to be used as a birthday present for a friend. I'd wondered about a third set as a birthday present for someone else, but we've got other things as gifts anyway and this was only going to be a possible extra. I'll keep the extra walnut peppermill as a spare and if I ever get another bout of woodturning enthusiasm, I might make another oak one to go with it.

For now though, I'm calling this project done, with two salt mills and three peppermills:

2025-04-02-01-five-finished-mills_600.jpg
 
Looks like you are getting the hang of this turning malarky.

I think that would be stretching things somewhat! Especially if you look at the size of the scrap pile....

Shame about the split, I wonder why?

My money's on a flaw in the wood (said the bad workman blaming his tools ;) ). The oak spindle came from ebay and was relatively cheap (buy cheap, buy twice...) and when I looked at the other half of it (it was a 600 mm spindle blank cut in half) there was a crack in that, so I'd guess the weakness that formed the crack ran into the piece that became the mill and the rest as they say is history.
 
Back
Top