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On the generosity of strangers...

Dr.Al

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As I'm sure some of you know, I maintain a website. The website contains write-ups of many of the projects I've done, along with some calculators to help work stuff out and various pages of data on things like threads. When I originally made the website (back in 2011), I did it for two reasons. The projects write-ups were there because I thought it would do me good to get in the habit of writing about making stuff (and to give me an easy way to look back on projects I'd done in the past). The calculators and data pages were there because I was fed up with searching for stuff on-line and having to filter through lots of American resources where the authors had never heard of the millimetre. Having it all on my website meant that it was easy for me to find the information when I needed it.

In the very early days of the website, it got hardly any "traffic" and as a result, was completely free to run. Over the years it has got more and more popular and after a while I started getting bills from the hosting provider. As those bills increased, I wanted to try to offset them a bit, but I hate adverts on websites. As an alternative, I rather optimistically put this simple notice quite unobtrusively (in my opinion) at the bottom of each page:

This website is free, but costs me money to run. If you'd like to support this site, please consider making a small donation or sending me a message to let me know what you liked or found useful.

For the first year or two, not much came of that, which didn't surprise me at all. However, after a while I started to get occasional donations (along with more frequent messages telling me that they liked the website, which I always appreciated getting and always made a point of replying to). Those donations went into a paypal account, which was also used to pay for the website hosting. Unsurprisingly, I kept having to add a bit to the paypal balance to cover the hosting costs.

About four or five years ago, those donations became frequent enough that I was hardly ever having to top up the paypal balance. It has been a while since I've even logged into the paypal account, but I checked a few days ago and the balance surprised me. Now it's not like I'm going to be able to use it for an early retirement, but there was a few hundred pounds in there.

I mentioned this to my other half and she immediately said "you should use it to buy something special for the workshop, you know the sort of thing you wouldn't be able to justify normally but you'd really like to have". Sometimes when your other half suggests you do something, it's best to just get on and do it!

This is definitely not a tool I needed. I already have three #4s (which cost me about £15 each), a #4½ (which I think was about £20) and two #5s (an Axminster one that was my first ever plane and a Stanley that cost me about £20). This cost substantially more than all of those put together but it really is a thing of beauty:

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I think you'd call it "reassuringly" heavy. It weighs 2.9 kg, which puts it somewhere in between my Stanley #6 and #7. I don't think I'll be using it for rough work (for that I sometimes find the #5 a bit heavy and switch to wooden planes), but I think it'll be lovely as a smoothing plane. So thank you, kind strangers, for donating to the website and funding my tool habit!

It felt like the sort of thing that deserved a place on the tool wall, so the rebate plane got moved into a gap higher up so the Clifton can sit next to my low-angle smoother:

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I hadn’t realised that we had a Celeb in our midst! Quite agree you should always do as you’re told- especially this time!
Be interesting to see how you get on with it and how much you use it.
I was feeling flush with funds once and treated myself to an LN smoother, let’s just say I hope you use yours a whole lot more.
Ian
 
I really like the Clifton's I have too. Very well finished. That's quite a collection there!
 
Love it and it's absolutely right to treat yourself after years of giving away free stuff. (y) Anyway the other half is always right as most of us know. ;)
 
Well done Al. Great stuff. :ROFLMAO:I mean, you should have spent the money on wood, but as a second-best.........;)

I too recently (yesterday) received a huge go-ahead, and you'll be reading about it soon.
 
There are, ahem, one or two, ahem more planes elsewhere as well (I think I'm up to 50-ish, depending on your definition of a plane)
OK, that qualifies. You're undoubtedly on the 'slippery slope' and accelerating fast downhill :ROFLMAO: Cliffies have always been 'nice to have' but I went down the Veritas low angle slope. Cliffies also at one time sported the appalling, dreadful, two piece cap iron which thankfully they appear to have kicked into the long grass. I had no end of 'discussions' on the topic with my recently deceased pal Paul Chapman when UKW was the place to be back in the day. He was another Cliffie fan and had the first production block plane as he kept on badgering the firm to make them, which they eventually, after much haranguing, managed to do - Rob
 
OK, that qualifies. You're undoubtedly on the 'slippery slope' and accelerating fast downhill :ROFLMAO:
No doubt about that :ROFLMAO:
Cliffies have always been 'nice to have' but I went down the Veritas low angle slope.
Yeah, urm, well, I've got one of them too (the Bevel-up smoothing plane I think it's called). That's the plane that's currently in my travel kit (along with a Stanley #4) - I took two blades away, both with a 25° primary bevel but one sharpened (secondary bevel) at 40° and one at 50°. I used the 40° one for roughing out (as I didn't have space for the Axminster jack). The 50° one (62° blade angle) is handy for stubborn grain like the ash I'm using for my current box project.

I definitely prefer BD planes for non-end-grain stuff though. I'm quietly pondering a spare blade for the "Cliffie" with a back bevel on it as it doesn't cope with the awful ash as well as the Veritas at 62°. The Clifton has the "bedrock" cam-based frog adjuster which makes it really easy to close the mouth up, but that's not enough for this ash.

I always feel I have to think hard before sticking a back bevel on though: it'd probably be a lot of work to undo! One of my #4s has one, but I've got three of them so it was less daunting! The alternative to a spare blade is that I just leave the 50° iron in the Veritas & that is my semi-stubborn wood plane (properly stubborn stuff gets scraped!)
 
No doubt about that :ROFLMAO:

Yeah, urm, well, I've got one of them too (the Bevel-up smoothing plane I think it's called). That's the plane that's currently in my travel kit (along with a Stanley #4) - I took two blades away, both with a 25° primary bevel but one sharpened (secondary bevel) at 40° and one at 50°. I used the 40° one for roughing out (as I didn't have space for the Axminster jack). The 50° one (62° blade angle) is handy for stubborn grain like the ash I'm using for my current box project.

I definitely prefer BD planes for non-end-grain stuff though. I'm quietly pondering a spare blade for the "Cliffie" with a back bevel on it as it doesn't cope with the awful ash as well as the Veritas at 62°. The Clifton has the "bedrock" cam-based frog adjuster which makes it really easy to close the mouth up, but that's not enough for this ash.

I always feel I have to think hard before sticking a back bevel on though: it'd probably be a lot of work to undo! One of my #4s has one, but I've got three of them so it was less daunting! The alternative to a spare blade is that I just leave the 50° iron in the Veritas & that is my semi-stubborn wood plane (properly stubborn stuff gets scraped!)
This is why I've always preferred the Veritas LA family. I have the wide bevel up smoother, the jack (which I won in a competition in F&C years ago) and the long try plane...and a bronze block which I use as sort of a No.3. The range of angle permutations that you can get on the blades is incredible; I have a couple of blades (I have eight in all) that I hone at 45deg so that once installed, the effective pitch is 57deg which will cope with the most difficult grain. Back bevels work but I wouldn't recommend putting one on an expensive Cliffie plane iron; I use an old Stanley No.4 for that as and when I can be ar$ed to set it up :ROFLMAO: - Rob
 
I don't know if it is still the case, but both of my Clifton planes, and the invaluable rebate plane, all came with a spare blade. As the average user will never wear a blade out, I assumed it was so a different bevel could be applied.
 
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