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Planer thicknesser?

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I knew this forum would be a bad idea.
Im now considering a further expensive purchase.
It has to be a budget one - theres absolutely no moving on that however I try to reason around it.
Not the cheapest ,and a brand I have experience with, is a Metabo DH 330
Anyone have or had one?
They seem to get favourable comments around and about
 
Just to avoid any confusion your thread title says planer thicknesser the machine you link to is just a thicknesser. In general these thicknessers are very noisy I don’t have experience of the metabo but did have the DeWalt version 20+ years ago, it did what I wanted it to do which was thickness boards after they had been through the planer.
Of the Metabo gear I have it’s made to a decent standard so I can’t see the DH330 being any different but it won’t straighten long boards for that you’re better off with a planer.
 
Yes, that is only a planer in the US. Here it is a thicknesser. It's confusing.
If you want someting decent but affordable*, I can recommend the Kity 636/637. I don't think they are made any more, but they do crop up second-hand from time to time. I've had 2 over 35 years. I haven't used mine since I got here, but that's only because I bought something bigger and, I thought, better**, from the previous owner of the house.
S
* Your mileage may differ
** It wasn't.
 
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Im now considering a further expensive purchase.
It has to be a budget one - theres absolutely no moving on that however I try to reason around it.
I have not heard of an expensive budget machine, but if you buy budget then the hassle it might give you will not be worth it so maybe @Steve Maskery 's idea is a good route to go down. Also weigh up machining your own timber compared to buying it ready to use, that depends upon your local suppliers and their quality.
 
I'm happy with my Record PT260 planer/thicknesser. Metabo do a cheaper version. Both can be found S/H on Facebook Marketplace.
 
Thanks for the pointers, plenty to consider.
Doug -forgive my naivety- I have lots of reasonable boards here already but around 1" that I need to be 3/4"
They will end up chopped up into 18" length
I dont need an immaculate finish just something a bit better than sawn
Will this metabo do it?
As far as decibels are concerned, my tinnitus drowns out any machine noise plus any conversations I dont want to hear.

Steve /Malc I cannot risk money on secondhand -with my experience/luck theres usually a hidden fault thats forced the previous owner to offload the kit.
Truly honest people are scarce.

Spectric -Ive had bad experience with dirt cheap kit like einhell but learned to read the market before buying replacements like evolution - hence 'expensive budget'
 
I have a 260 Electra Beckum that I cannot fault (apart from the stoopid thickness measure ruler.... that I must get around to changing)
I expect they would be quite nicely priced as used.
 
If just looking for a "lunchbox" thicknesser (from what I see looking the Metabo DH330 up on Google) I only have experience with the Triton TPT125 thicknesser - same thing... a lunchbox thicknesser.

I've been using mine recently to clean up the yew timber I have - up to 3" sawn thickness by 12¼" wide and up to 5ft in length. It's managed very well. Max height is supposed to be 6" but I doubt it (or I) could manage to put a 12" wide by 6" thick long length through it... without help anyway 😎.

I've found it very useful. It was on sale when I got it.

On sale now at Yandles...
 
I've have a Metabo. It works absolutely fine, decent finish and minimal snipe. I suspect it is no more or less noisy than any comparable alternative. It seems quite solidly built so I would imagine that a secondhand one without obvious signs of abuse would be fine too as long as you bear in mind that the infeed and outfeed are only pressed metal. I can just about get away with using a CT26 vac and a 100mm hose for the chippings (which fill the cyclone at an entertaining rate).
 
If you have ‘lots of boards’ and they are going to be chopped to give you a lot more shorter boards then stop worrying about snipe. Just rough cut them to length, thickness them then cut the snipe off to length.

You don’t say what thickness the boards are.
 
Here you go.

This one is a better machine.

I don't know the Fox, but they have been reviewed on here before. A thicknesser alone is quite limited in what it can do. Rough boards with any sort of shape in them (wind, particularly) can't be flattened, so I would at least contemplate a planer thicknesser. Single phase machines come up for sale regularly on Ebay and Facebook Marketplace.
 
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I have a very-secondhand Kity 439, which is a much more 'budget' version of Steve's 639. It's built like a tank (by modern standards), and it works, but...

Kity 439 micro review
... Like many other budget units, it's hard to keep the infeed and outfeed tables in parallel planes (almost coplanar), and the amount of offset (roughly equivalent to the depth of cut) is tricky to adjust well.

The planer ("jointer") fence is pretty pants - wobbly and very hard to get exactly square. I keep looking at it and muttering as after about ten years of ownership I still can't think of a practical mod to improve it. Once square it tends to stay put, but I do need it to tilt also, and returning it to square again is a pain.

Also frustrating is the amount of snipe from the thicknesser. I discussed this here a couple of years back, and I now think it's mostly down to sawdust blocking up the vertical travel of the infeed and outfeed rollers. Both have a pair of heavy coil springs, like a miniature car suspension, and the spaces above the springs and below the 'axles' get clogged up with compacted sawdust. Because they can't move freely, they squeeze the stock too much, leading to snipe.

OK That was the bad stuff. Mine is umpteenth-hand, but it works pretty well even though the paint is actually cracking off. The motor is still strong and willing, and everything turns as it should. The bearings for the cutter head are massive, and show no signs of play (and they are sealed, too).

On softwood, it does its job surprisingly well. Ditto on American White Oak and Beech, and relatively soft 'hardwoods' such as Idigbo and Sapele.. considering it's probably early 1980s manufacture, and was probably only intended to last for ten years or so, it's ridiculously long lasting. And it has non-ferrous tables, so it sits in a damp garage/workshop with only the cutter block well covered up, and I need not worry about huge rust problems.

Would I get an ancient secondhand Kity 439 again? Almost certainly. Mine was 200 UKP, and needed a complete overhaul, but I learned a lot dismantling, cleaning and fettling it, and it continues to please me with what it will actually do.

General things to consider:
Particularly for thicknessers--"planers" in the land of mangled English--it might be well worth looking for one that will accept a helical block (AND for which such a block is currently being made & available). I don't know enough about them, but I'd hope the actual cutters now have some sort of standardization, allowing third party manufacturers, similar to the system for lathe and milling machine carbide tooling in metalworking.

The reasons for helical heads are well discussed elsewhere, but the single biggest one for me would be getting minimal tearout when processing hardwoods. The simple fact you can put carbide inserts into them would be worth it - I was trying to clean up Teak not so long ago, and new sets of HSS knives weren't lasting for a single thin pass on a 3" piece of stock. I've got knife change down pat now, but it still takes around 15-20 minutes to do them carefully. And yes, I do resharpen them, so I keep several sets handy if I'm doing anything other than softwood. But Teak, and other hardwoods with significant mineral inclusions, too-quickly defeat my present HSS planer knives*.

There's video out there in YouTubeLand "proving" that a helical cutter needs more power than a traditional one (eg. as fitted to a very common DeWalt lunchbox). Despite what these folks demonstrate, I am extremely skeptical that this is the whole story. Intuitively, it doesn't make sense - there's usually only one or two cutters engaged at the same time, and they should be taking a shearing cut, too. I can't do my own experiments as I don't have a helical block for my machine. Even if the extra power consumption thing is true, I'd still get a helical block if I could.

So many different construction choices, tolerances, and adjustments interact in these machines that it's foolish to assume one single cause for any specific problem in use. This must be the same for all of the budget ones. If you buy cheap and new, you might get away with it, or you might be stuck with a machine you simply can't fettle (as too many corners were cut in design and manufacture).

Watch out particularly for parts that ought to be metal but which are plastic mouldings, and bracketry, etc that's thin pressed steel instead of bar stock of heavier pressings. Also the very frame of the machine itself must be dead square and true - again, thicker steel probably equals better.

So, old DeWalt, and Electra Bekum, and possibly Kity all look worth consideration. If you buy new nowadays, all bets are off...

*I haven't yet tried grinding to a different cutter angle, as honing becomes tricky, but that mighe be worth some experiments.
 
@fuse if it’s mainly short boards you are want to process I’ve often read about folks making a sled for these briefcase thicknessers which allows boards to be “planed flat” prior to thicknessing.
I’ve no experience of doing this myself but I’d be surprised if there’s not YouTube videos on the subject
 
@fuse if it’s mainly short boards you are want to process I’ve often read about folks making a sled for these briefcase thicknessers which allows boards to be “planed flat” prior to thicknessing.
I’ve no experience of doing this myself but I’d be surprised if there’s not YouTube videos on the subject
Can you imagine how slow it is to individually mount each board on a sled, prop it to height, and secure everything?...... If you had to do that for every board in a pile of a dozen boards, you'd go nuts!
 
I suppose it’s how much thought you put into the sled Mike, off the top of my head I’d have thought some shop made adjustable wooden cam locks would make securing boards to the sled quite quick & some plastic window packers would make levelling pretty easy.

I’m certainly not saying it would be as quick as a planer thicknesser but quicker than hand planing if you’ve a lot to do. I’m just looking at things from Martin’s point of view, I can empathise with him not wanting to buy second hand as it can be a minefield, I know I had a fair few problems taking that route in the past.
 
I suppose it’s how much thought you put into the sled Mike, off the top of my head I’d have thought some shop made adjustable wooden cam locks would make securing boards to the sled quite quick & some plastic window packers would make levelling pretty easy.......

Yep, for a batch where all the boards were of uniform width....and narrow enough that there was room for a cam lock on the side of the board.

I mean, yeah, you're dead right. It's do-able, but I'd suggest a planer thicknesser and avoid the hassle.
 
I've never quite got the idea of a thicknesser only. Just why? its only half of the process for furniture making.
For me I bought one as I had been given a 1950’s Wadkin planer, I now have a planer/thicknesser but have to admit it’s not as convenient as having separate machines.
As with a lot of things it’s a compromise my planer/thicknesser takes up less space & allows me to plane wider boards than I used to be able to but I would prefer separate machines again if I had the space.
 
I've never quite got the idea of a thicknesser only. Just why? its only half of the process for furniture making.
For me it was/is the only machine that I could accommodate in my small workshop area - and plane up to 12½" wide boards. I do have the Triton 7"/180mm *plane* which I can use for planing face/edge but need to make a jig/holder to house it in an inverted position. To date I've been able to plane both faces and edges using the thicknesser as the boards have been square edge to faces.
 
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