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Small workshop

From a weight perspective you should get a wacker plate in the car, depending on the type of car you may need to take the handle off, most handles fall forward to lower the height so providing you've got reasonable head room it should fit without further dismantling.

Jon
 
It really depends on how high any cill is to have to lift a heavy whacker plate over. And get out the other end. Worked fine in my Disco but that (a) has a high boot floor level and (b) no cill to speak of.
 
It is an Audi A6 estate no cill and the floor is flat so that should not be an issue.
They seem to weigh around 70 kg which should not be an issue either.
Has anyone used the electric versions.
 
MY63":3i61964v said:
It is an Audi A6 estate no cill and the floor is flat so that should not be an issue.
They seem to weigh around 70 kg which should not be an issue either.
Has anyone used the electric versions.
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They work by rotating and eccentric weight so I would imagine no performance difference between petrol and electrically powered versions just that the latter is more convenient for small jobs and no need to fiddle around with cans of fuel unless you also run a petrol lawnmower and have petrol to hand.

Bob
 
Found an electric one £23 for a day more stone tomorrow wood arrives Wednesday so I think Thursday for the walker. :)
 
I used one to make my path, it worked ok. Although it was just used to whacker the sand into the hardcore. The one I hired was petrol. Pretty heavy if I recall correctly.

I think you may need some sand over whatever hardcore you use to create a flat surface, (‘bind’ it is the term I think) like my path pics below. I’m not sure it will do much to just whacker stone / rubble.

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Thanks @Coolhands I was advised to buy the stone with sand in because it would compact well. If my workshop turns out anywhere near as good as yours I will be very happy.

This is my hearing protection they are not the full noise cancelling ones but even without music playing I cant hold a conversation the electric one is much quieter apparently :D

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Another Christmas gift :)
 
Coolhands":29md6ja6 said:
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I think you may need some sand over whatever hardcore you use to create a flat surface, (‘bind’ it is the term I think) like my path pics below. I’m not sure it will do much to just whacker stone / rubble.
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It's 'blind' :D

It depends on the type of sub-base material you get. From our local builders merchants their sub-base is a mix of gravel/crushed stone/sand/ fines and so when you whack it down it really does solidify into seamless surface that hardly needs any further dressing with the addition of sand. As I mentioned in another post, the trick is to lay a small layer/whack and keep whacking/add another small layer/repeat.

EDIT: Michael, you were well advised ! Where did you get yours from ?
 
Ha Ha Roger if Coolhands had not posted pictures I would not have known what he was talking about :)
It was my local timber supplier who told me what to buy they don't supply it so I bought it from Travis Perkins online only as you get free delivery if you spend over £50 ex vat it was £45 so I added a couple of bags of sand to the first two orders and a bag of cement for the third so I can mix the mortar for the DPC.

This morning I have picked up the Underfloor vents galvanised straps DPC and some 90 degree corner brackets (just to keep me happy) All from tool station very reasonable.

I then went to Axminster and bought a length of "T" track for a work bench idea that I will come back to.
 
As I mentioned above I visited Axminster today as I was leaving I noticed a large insulation supply company across the road. And at the far end of their lot stood a shabby looking pallet well wrapped.
I approached one of the staff who directed me to the office they quoted £680 for new insulation out of my budget

When I arrived home I rang the company and asked if I could buy the insulation on the pallet I was asked to return and speak to the warehouse supervisor when I arrived he asked what I was doing and when I explained he pointed to the pallet and the surrounding new rolls and said "take what you want" yes that is what he said.
Here is my list
8 x 4 ft sheets 100 mm x 3 75mm x 3 40mm x 1 Batts 2 packs 75mm rolls 75mm 6 packs of 2 I left a lot of these behind as I was very short of space.
I did find room for 5 rolls of some insulation the guy said was "top notch" the name on the roll is Actis Hybris my friend came and picked up the other 5 rolls.
It took me 4 hours to get it all home but I am a happy chap.

I am going to take some large boxes of biscuits to them tomorrow.
 
MY63":1466njw1 said:
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I am going to take some large boxes of biscuits to them tomorrow.
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Great result there ! And 10/10 for perseverance.

Is there a fish and chippy nearby ? In my experience that always goes down very well around lunchtime.
 
:text-bravo:

:eusa-clap: :eusa-clap: :eusa-clap:

I also offer to top up their coffee club when I get a result.
 
All money has to be handled by their front office via invoice I did offer to buy or make some sort of donation coffee fund type of thing but it is not allowed.
I will return tomorrow loaded with biscuits or maybe cakes from a local bakery. I could not go today as my timber order was due.
It arrived around 11am I spent the rest of the day moving it and doging rain storms moving insulation and humping timber there seemed to be a large vairiation in weight between timber of the same size.
When I ordered the lintels I should have asked about weight they were in the centre of the load. The 1m ones I could lift but not carry the 1.8m ones were ridiculously heavy. Fortunately when clearing my late father of n laws workshop I found a folding trolley sack barrow which helped me to move them just not easily.
I will be having a rest day tomorrow.
The delivery guy asked if I was building a bungalow in my garden with all of the wood :D although if I keep dragging mud through the house I may well be living in it :lol:
Does anyone know of a use for the bulk bags the stone comes in the suppliers don’t want them back.
 
Those bulk or jumbo bags are single use bags. That is, they're not OKd to take the same weight again after its first use.

When I was working I sold some for a fiver each on the internal intranet. Some people use them for garden waste.

I note they are also offered for sale on Facebook Marketplace.

I have also taken them to my local recycling centre where the staff also like to use them for plastic waste etc.
 
MY63":3enhbu8o said:
....although if I keep dragging mud through the house I may well be living in it :lol: .
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Aaaah... I know what you mean :D
 
We use the ton bags down the allotment for compost, as Mark says they are good for fire wood a mate has dozens of them full of wood makes them easy for him to move around.
I keep a clean one for taking green waste I can’t compost to the local tip saves dirtying the car.
 
After moving all of the timber and lintels yesterday I have to admit I was a little down thinking I had taken on too much.
I am a little more positive today, Although last week the weather forecast was for 10 days with little chance of rain which for some reason I believed :lol: Yes I know I am nuts :D

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The idea of using an electric wacker has been binned for a petrol one don't worry I am not planning on using it in the rain. But it will work in damp conditions.
I am having some steroid injections in my left elbow tomorrow so will be slowing down for a few days while it settles down.

The only item I am having difficulty with now is the insect mesh I am looking at stainless steel mesh 7.5 cm which as far as I can tell reviewing Mike G s drawings for base and roof should be fine.
Am I correct ?
 
Thanks Doug
I am on the North East coast your post gave me all of the information I needed size of mesh and material so I have ordered some, Not from that supplier but the same stuff.
Michael
 
re: feeling down I do think you need to steel yourself mentally for the upcoming task. I know you read my thread on my build. At times I found it very challenging & more than once wondered why I had started it as (the job) looked too big at times.

But eventually whatever part of the build you are doing will pass, and you move onto the next stage. At some point when the rain is pouring and the walls are half complete you will wonder. But the rest of the walls will go up eventually, etc etc !

I would say don't rush and wear yourself out, just take it steady. I didn't bother with insect mesh; for me it was too expensive and also I had time constraints and some things are more of a luxury than necessity if you know what I mean, and that was one of them.
 
Thanks for the support I am sure there are challenges to come I am afraid over doing things is not an option for me.
I am resting today after delivering biscuits and I may have popped in to Axminster for a brief look around I only came out with a tape measure called a vice versa. It is mm and as the name suggests can be used either way around allowing me to hold the tape in my left hand and mark with my weaker right hand.

I managed to get the mesh for £30 delivered which is reasonable for woven stainless steel mesh.

www.robinsonwirecloth.co.uk/online-shop/

Now that I have the lintels I dont think I will be bothering with the bricks underneath them as it turns out a friend has a wacker which he is going to lend me for a week. Another problem solved :)
 
Malc2098":21h6yxuf said:
Those bulk or jumbo bags are single use bags. .....
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My local builders merchant re-uses them. There's a £7 deposit on each.
 
RogerS":1fbz7csa said:
Malc2098":1fbz7csa said:
Those bulk or jumbo bags are single use bags. .....
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My local builders merchant re-uses them. There's a £7 deposit on each.
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You can tell your up T Norf Rog I’ve not heard of deposit bulk bags for about 15 years. You’ll be telling us next you can get chips & gravey from T chippy
 
Doug":3pp4a5pa said:
RogerS":3pp4a5pa said:
Malc2098":3pp4a5pa said:
Those bulk or jumbo bags are single use bags. .....
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My local builders merchant re-uses them. There's a £7 deposit on each.
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You can tell your up T Norf Rog I’ve not heard of deposit bulk bags for about 15 years. You’ll be telling us next you can get chips & gravey from T chippy
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You forgot the mushy peas ! Tell you what though...their pies are cracking and very cheap.
 
All this talk of fish and chips is just making me hungry.

One up for the Royal Mail insect mesh ordered yesterday delivered today.

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The forecast is for a dry weekend and I am hoping to make some progress.
I need to work out a way to move the lintels safely I can lift the 1 m ones but I cannot carry them I have a small sack barrow but it has fairly small wheels so I mave have to lay some spare deck boards to move it along.
I am also considering using rope to sling it and using wood for handles.
 
If the surface your need to move them across is hard, then rolling them on lengths of plastic waste pipe or bits of broom handle might make the task a bit easier. I remember helping my dad move my shed down the garden when I was 10 or 11 like that, it was a long time ago!
 
Thanks Dave
After the weekend I hope to have compacted hardcore everywhere I actually moved the old shed into place on two 4 x 4 s with a liberal application of washing up liquid :)
I am off to hospital for steroid injections in my good arm actually the elbow joint it is painful but not for too long.
 
The strongest muscles in the body are the legs, well in mine they are. That's why H&S info always says pick a box up from the ground in a squatting position with a straight back.

So if you have a strap round your shoulders that just lifts the end of a lintel off the ground when you're standing straight, then with legs only slightly bent, hook the strap underneath the lintel, and stand up straight. It's then hanging one end from your shoulders and the other on the ground. Walk your end a pace or too, then change ends and keep repeating the zig zag till you get there.

A bit of a faff, i know, but you shouldn't hurt your arms, shoulders or back doing it that way. Your should also find that you're less tired, and after all, you can take as long as you want.
 
Sorry - pedant alert. Your leg muscles are just big, not strong. The strongest muscle (depending on how you define strong) is generally the jaw muscle (insert joke about the gossiping missus here at your peril!).

While the strap method described would work, please be very careful about this - it is easy to strain/stretch the neck if you are not directly over the weight and it would be much preferable just to get a man/mate/group of friends round for some beer vouchers to help you with this or do it for you. Making your location a bit more specific might help if there are members near you?
 
I think Dave L hit the nail on the head I have lots of timber around I am going to make some tracks and using a lever ease them into place .
Thanks for the ideas.
This may seem sad but when I returned from hospital with an elbow stuffed with steroids I started working on a cutting plan, I know I don’t have a huge amount of wood but is it worth creating a set of reference codes for roof and floor timbers and cut everything in one go or should I cut it as it is needed ?
 
I found being like a production line with some things was defiantly faster, so yes I would try and cut many in one go. I would also recommend trying to design as many groups of timbers being the same length as possible. Eg all uprights at 200cm or whatever. It makes everything faster where you can do that.
 
Coolhands":3miw2yse said:
I found being like a production line with some things was defiantly faster, so yes I would try and cut many in one go. I would also recommend trying to design as many groups of timbers being the same length as possible. Eg all uprights at 200cm or whatever. It makes everything faster where you can do that.
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I have an old door which I plan to use as a cutting table with my compound mitre saw I appreciate your advice
I have noticed that all of the stock is 5 mm oversize so I will make sure all the ends are square when I trim them to size. My side wall studs will be around 200cm but I ordered them as 4.2m. My thoughts were I could make allowances for my changing ground height to make sure I dont go too high.
 
You may remember back in December I was asking about band saws and with a little help managed to buy a gently used one for a reasonable price.
I waited for the Tuff saw guys to return from their break they had been hit by a nasty flu bug but I had an email conversation with Ian and he advised me which blades would be best for the work I will be doing.
They have been ordered. :D
When I was looking inside for the blade brush I also checked all of the adjusters were working and found the tensioner did not appear to be working. I managed to find a supplier who had spares for the machine so I have ordered a replacement tensioner bolt as I had read stripping of threads was a common issue, along with a new brush and the little plastic piece that the blade passes through.

My electrician dropped off a reel of armoured cable and the wacker is due to arrive soon
 
MY63":1wowrkoz said:
You may remember back in December I was asking about band saws and with a little help managed to buy a gently used one for a reasonable price.
I waited for the Tuff saw guys to return from their break they had been hit by a nasty flu bug but I had an email conversation with Ian and he advised me which blades would be best for the work I will be doing.
They have been ordered. :D
When I was looking inside for the blade brush I also checked all of the adjusters were working and found the tensioner did not appear to be working. I managed to find a supplier who had spares for the machine so I have ordered a replacement tensioner bolt as I had read stripping of threads was a common issue, along with a new brush and the little plastic piece that the blade passes through.

My electrician dropped off a reel of armoured cable and the wacker is due to arrive soon
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When you get your tensioning bolt, make sure that it is free to run in the female thread and lubricate it with some grease. Any type will do.

Bob
 
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