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Yeah, you northern lot can scoff, but I've just given up working in my workshop because its only 8c out there. :shock:
I even dug out my old leather motorcycle jacket to wear but could not keep my body heat up.

It might be mostly sunny here, but the next three weeks are our deepest winter. It must have dropped to 1 or 2 c overnight for it to still be only 8c at 10 am. There is snow in the mountains now.
And because its only for three weeks (5 at the most) each year, theres no point in having any kind of heating set up.
I see lots of coffee and electronic games in my near future. :eusa-doh:
 
sunnybob":2l1e2wak said:
Yeah, you northern lot can scoff, but I've just given up working in my workshop because its only 8c out there. :shock:
I even dug out my old leather motorcycle jacket to wear but could not keep my body heat up.

It might be mostly sunny here, but the next three weeks are our deepest winter. It must have dropped to 1 or 2 c overnight for it to still be only 8c at 10 am. There is snow in the mountains now.
And because its only for three weeks (5 at the most) each year, theres no point in having any kind of heating set up.
I see lots of coffee and electronic games in my near future. :eusa-doh:

Wimp! Man up :lol: 8 degrees is warm.

Weather is up the creek. SWMBO tells me they've had snow in the Sahara. Spain has had many inches in Madrid and elsewhere. Japan had a 150 car pile up due to snow and another 1000 cars stuck on an expressway for two days.
 
Roger..... THIRTY 8 degrees is warm to me, over 40 is hot. 8-)

I'm suffering culture shock. Almost midday, still only 12 on the side porch so that means still single figures in the workshop. I'm closed down for the day.

Snow in the mountains is very normal, but I never go there in the winter. :eusa-hand:
 
Is anyone here suffering from the flooding?
We are relatively high here, the flood plain is..... flooded, several minor roads are closed but I don’t think any properties are. Forecast is 24 hours rain.
 
a lot of standing water and the roads are running like streams but no flooding local as yet. we are above the flood plain here but the village isn't so I expect some localised issues, to be honest, just a typical day in warrington, any session :).
 
We are high above the Aln, but the permanent sloughs ("slews") on the flood plain around it are substantially bigger. The ground around here, even on high ground, is supersaturated; texture is a bit like heated chocolate, to a depth of several inches.

Soggy Sam.
 
novocaine":2k1nkdix said:
a lot of standing water and the roads are running like streams but no flooding local as yet. we are above the flood plain here but the village isn't so I expect some localised issues, to be honest, just a typical day in warrington, any session :).

Pure ignorance on my part, but is the Mersey tidal at Warrington?
I would have assumed that the river plus the canal would quickly drain any excess from where your are.
 
First weir on the Mersey is Warrington, up to that point it is completely tidal, after that only high tides (from memory 1.8m) so no, we don't expect major fluvial flooding in Warrington proper. I'm a bit outside of that, our catchment is the ship canal, the Mersey remaining north of that from me but that is a control watercourse so again no expectation of fluvial flooding in Warrington. if you head further up stream towards Manchester you may get the occasional overtop scenario and I'm fairly surely that parts of Sale suffered in recent years from the Mersey.

Parts of outlying areas between Widnes and Warrington are prone to coastal flooding (some 20 miles in land). theres a fairly nice pup on the banks between the Sankey canal (what's left of it) and the Mersey that has seen 3m+ over the years and they have it marked on the bar. they do have a very nice range of scotch. :)

What we do get is pluvial flooding, hence saying I expect some localised flooding due to back up of drainage channels and such or, on fairly rare occasion, the bridgewater overtopping due to failed sluice gates. the ground here is clay to silt with little loam and it quickly gets saturated. the nearest small water course to me is the Bollin (I think, I'd need to go back to the flood mapping), it was dammed along time ago and as such is a control source but that doesn't stop some of the tributaries flooding due to blockage. again all localised.

As a slighly odd aside, the Mersey has a tidal bore, about every 2 years from memory. nothing compared to the Seven bore but it's still an amazing sight to watch the water level raise in a wave. It stops at the weir. the rowing club is above the weir, which is no fun if you ask me. :D
 
I must be well 'arder than I thought! :)

Workshop goes down to 5 when it's zero outside. Oil filled heater ups it to 8 or 9.

Me and the machines up it to 12.
 
Thanks for detailed reply novo,
I was thinking of this yesterday when Manchester said that they declared an emergency, I thought that the ship canal would see off most water up there.
As I said ignorance on my part.
 
Malc2098":y0frmbtg said:
I must be well 'arder than I thought! :)

Workshop goes down to 5 when it's zero outside. Oil filled heater ups it to 8 or 9.

Me and the machines up it to 12.

Bob is not really cold, he just likes winding up us folk near the the Arctic circle :D
 
I did the flood management plan for a few places closer in to Manchester a while ago, otherwise I wouldn't have a clue. :D had to rack my brain for the daft facts above, can't promise they are correct but I think it's all true.

think floating tanks of petrochem. :)
 
Oh, Bob, Bob, Bob. [Trevanion insert a gif of Blackadder at this point].

My windows a couple of days ago. The frost is on the inside.

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Snow last night. Snowing now actually. Heavy snow forecast for tomorrow.

However the hound and I seem to manage to struggle up to the top of the hill each morning. 513m elevation if we go the whole distance.

Still this house is unlikely to flood. 90% of the world would be underwater before that happens. Kevin Costner with webbed feet scenario. Ugh.
 
Malc2098":28lr1i1g said:
I must be well 'arder than I thought! :)

Workshop goes down to 5 when it's zero outside. Oil filled heater ups it to 8 or 9.

Me and the machines up it to 12.

I've never shirked the fact that I'm a southern softie :lol: :lol:
I cite my complete distrust of cold and snow as having been stuck in two separate blizzards in a vehicle with no doors or heating, waiting for rescue.
Not doing that again, not even in my nightmares. :eusa-naughty: :eusa-naughty:
 
Nothing wrong with being a southern softee. We have the best beer down here! :eusa-whistle:
 
Went for a drive earlier

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Malc2098":3gtdmzjg said:
Nothing wrong with being a southern softee. We have the best beer down here! :eusa-whistle:

Its considered one of the norths best exports. :D

But your cider is alright.
 
Well. Bits of Manchester are being evacuated due to overtopping of the Mersey and basin.
Localised flooding from the bollin is effecting homes and the guidance is to evacuate if you can.

Oh and its feckin snowing here. What the hell.
 
sunnybob":soczx9j2 said:
Malc2098":soczx9j2 said:
I must be well 'arder than I thought! :)

Workshop goes down to 5 when it's zero outside. Oil filled heater ups it to 8 or 9.

Me and the machines up it to 12.

I've never shirked the fact that I'm a southern softie :lol: :lol: ...

I didn't know you were from Yorkshire ? :lol:
 
On one visit to China I looked at the weather forecast and it said minimum 20C, so I packed shorts and t-shirts. When I got there it was indeed 25C and I felt rather toasty even in my summer gear. The only problem was everyone else had a huge coat on like it was the middle of winter :lol: :lol:

Got a lot of stares for two days solid because it was still warm to me when it was dark.

Also when I moved to Gibraltar I was lying by the pool in January whilst everyone else looked like they were going on holiday to Siberia. My mates said I'd acclimatise and I laughed. Needless to say two years later it got down to 13C one day and I was whinging about it being freezing.
 
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24 hour timelapse - no, not Shropshire :)
 
A few years back I had a few weeks in Southern California in February.
We thought it was nice and balmy but the locals reckoned it was cold.
We always got a restaurant table immediately, by choosing to sit outside often with a blazing fire pit.

Rod
 
Mate of mine is a ranking police office and has been working flat out for a week on the water situation. They’ve evacuated 2500 homes in Didsbury and opened the Fletcher Moss flood gates. Fletcher Moss is a park in Didsbury that they use as a flood plain in emergencies for the Mersey.

He said the environment agency are calling it a once in a lifetime situation. Fletcher Moss is a large park and can hold up to 7.1 metres depth across its site. They reckon it’s going up to 7.8 metres...
 
Woodster":3w0n9v8x said:

I cant find it at the moment, but I have a picture of the thermometer on my side porch showing 52 from a few years back. Its really not pleasant to be in anything over 40 (bear in mind a very hot bath water is 43 :shock:
All outside workers are allowed to stop work and seek shade if it passes 40.
7 years ago I took some readings with one of those infra red non contact thermometers on my car, which had been locked up and in the august sun all day. The windscreen returned 75c. When I opened the door the cloth seat returned 58c.
But getting back to my complaint this week, its gotten even colder! This morning at 7 am (sunrise) it was ZERO. And this thermometer is under a roof and close to the house, so out in the fields it was definitely minus too many.
Really annoying because the sky is brilliant blue and I need sunglasses as well as a big coat and gloves.
 
This morning

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And the wunderhund on the scent of some deer.

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As forecast, heavy snow overnight, and still falling, albeit lightly. Thankgoodness for the Defender, even though I was swearing at it a few days ago. Skis out again, too, and maybe even the sled.
 
You're a wimp Bob, exile in the sunshine has softened you up, here in the frozen North East the hard core Newcastle United supporters would still be at the footie with their shirts off, if they were allowed to attend.

When I let the dog out at 12.30 this morning it was minus 3 and snowing like billio, she looked at me as if to say " you must be fff..lippin joking", tiptoed across the grass, pretended to have a pee and shot back in the house, she was curled up in her bed before I had time to shut the door.

On the other hand we were in the centre of Sydney a few years ago when the temperature was 42 deg which my wife especially found very difficult while some of the Ozzies were wearing sweaters and jackets. :lol:
 
TrimTheKing":3pxd6n2c said:
Mate of mine is a ranking police office and has been working flat out for a week on the water situation. They’ve evacuated 2500 homes in Didsbury and opened the Fletcher Moss flood gates. Fletcher Moss is a park in Didsbury that they use as a flood plain in emergencies for the Mersey.

He said the environment agency are calling it a once in a lifetime situation. Fletcher Moss is a large park and can hold up to 7.1 metres depth across its site. They reckon it’s going up to 7.8 metres...

Sadly the frequency with which we'll hear "Once in a lifetime..." is going to be based on small mammals with short lives thanks to climate change!
 
fletcher park basin hasn't been needed in 10 or so years, last time it got something like 4m in it (massive amount of water).

the Bollin burst it banks near Dunham last year, flooded the fields to a depth of 2m, we joked it was the new Dunham sailing club at the time, it receeded eventually but I expect it's back now.
 
sunnybob":2b9o5cym said:
But getting back to my complaint this week, its gotten even colder! This morning at 7 am (sunrise) it was ZERO. And this thermometer is under a roof and close to the house, so out in the fields it was definitely minus too many.
I was in my unheated workshop last Friday when it was -31C. Do I get the record?
 
That record is one youre welcome to, and I will never ever try to beat. :eusa-hand:
My freezer runs at minus 18, and I dont even like getting stuff out of that.

When we first came here in a november, and we were in shorts and the natives were in full winter clobber with fur lined hoods, oh how we laughed. 14 years on... it's no laughing matter at all.

Water is so scarce around here that flooding is an extremely rare event. A flash rain storm might flood some orads, but by next day its all gone. There is a large "seasonal lake" outside Paralimni town. 9 years out of 10 its waste ground. When it floods its almost a mile across, but no more than 6" deep.
 
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