Trimble Towers Workshop - Fitting out begins...

[Phil]

Nice progress Mark.

At this rate there will be sawdust long before Christmas!

The clean up near the tank is a nice solution, pity about the washline.

 

[TrimTheKing]

Nice progress Mark.

At this rate there will be sawdust long before Christmas!

The clean up near the tank is a nice solution, pity about the washline.

Thanks Phil, fingers crossed...

The washing lines are retractable and hidden away when not in use. They were wash days when the photos were taken.

 

[Tusses]

Well there's one I've caught up with !
Great progress Mark
I bet the closer it gets , the more you want it done so you can get in there !
Try to have will power though, and get it all done and finished, as if you "move in" will odds and ends still to do , they will likely never get done :eusa-doh:

 

[TrimTheKing]

Well life is no less busy but I’ve reprioritised some things in my life lately and am starting to make time for things for me!

My mate took Friday off to do some more on the electrics for me so we cracked on together and got the remaining conduit in place for the sockets round 3 sides, all the singles pulled through and 6 sockets terminated.

He care round again today for a couple of hours and we drilled through into the house and terminated into the main consumer unit so we now have a live CU in the workshop!!

We’re going to get a couple more hours at it in evenings this week and get the sockets livened up. Still to go is a bit more conduit for sockets along the front wall, lighting circuits and a couple of external lights and sockets then I can get it signed off.

I am having the flat panels as the main lighting but in the handtool section I think I need tubes up in between the mezzanine rafters so can anyone recommend some for me, both fittings and tubes, so I don’t need to research?

The panels are 6500k LED so the tubes need to compliment these.

Cheers

 

[Doug]

You sure you’re gonna have enough sockets :?:

 

[TrimTheKing]

I was worried, do you think I’ve gone too few?

 

[9fingers]

Why do you need a different type of light to use hand tools?
Hand tools are not something that happens in my shop** but is there a difference required? A semi serious reply.

I use trad fluorescent tubes and each time I've wondered about leds, I keep coming back to the reliability of the drivers and then we have poor malcolm's experience of severe RFI. My network connection down there is via homeplug at near limit range.

**I did use a chisel today to scrape some glue squeeze-out from the corners of a job :lol:

Bob

 

[TrimTheKing]

No mate it’s nothing to do with hand tools, it’s just because having the flat panels against the underside of the joists means I will be in danger of belting them as I move stuff around. I thought it would be safer to have tubes up in between a couple of sets of joists that I could recess up slightly above the joist bottoms.

 

[AndyP]

Well it is progress so keep it up.

Still don't understand why you have wasted so much cable and conduit on all those vertical drops. The horizontals should be in line with the sockets. But I could be wrong.

 

[RogerS]

Well it is progress so keep it up.

Still don't understand why you have wasted so much cable and conduit on all those vertical drops. The horizontals should be in line with the sockets. But I could be wrong.

I asked my sparks why he'd done my workshop the same way and TBH his answer didn't make sense. I think it's a question of 'because I've always done it that way'.

Good progress, Mark. I'm driving down your way on Friday and so can call in and give confirmation to the guys that it really is progress and not some fancy Photoshop'd image :lol:

 

[Rod]

Actually, daylight is a great thing.
I took great care giving my boxes a first coat of thin varnish working in the shop with lots of lighting on ( none flicker double daylight fl. tubes) But examining them later in daylight when dry I was really surprised how much I’d missed. Came as a bit of a shock - you cannot have too much lighting never mind plug sockets! [emoji3]

Rod

 

[TrimTheKing]

Yeah defo pop in Roger. I’ll be home all day apart from School drop off and pick up (out between 14:45 - 15:30.

 

[Malc2098]

Firstly, I've never regretted having 24 double sockets. Each time I do something that needs plugging in, I have a choice and don't have to stretch.

Secondly, could 600 x 300 or 1200 x 300 panels fit between the joists?

Just a thought.

 

[TrimTheKing]

Question, I'm just buying some more MCB's for the shop and looking at the ratings. I would think that MCB B's would be more than enough for the shop, but has anyone installed C's for any particular machines or applications?

I imagine the only 3 machines in my shop with enough possible grunt to trip a standard 13a socket would be the tablesaw (which ran fine on a 13a plug when the shop was in the house, so can't see it being any different, but I might put it on a 16a commando and matching MCB just in case, the planer/thicknesser and the DX.

All the above worked fine on 13a in the garage workshop but happy to take any advice now before I purchase.

 

[RogerS]

If they worked fine before then they should still be OK on those B breakers.

 

[Malc2098]

I have two separate 16a radials and use the table saw on one and DX on the other. I believe they're on Cs.

 

[Rod]

My DEFT tablesaw is on a C with 16A plugs.
But everything else is as “normal”.

Rod

 

[9fingers]

Just catching up with threads as my "new post" notifications are taking nearly 24hrs to turn up :shock:

I feed my workshop with a C40 breaker in the house and avoid nuisance trips in the workshop itself by having wired fuses in recycled CUs from the house when I re-wired it. These are tolerant of motor start ups but will blow in the good old fashioned way for serious fault protection.

Not this is likely to be an option for you Mark for signed off installation. I would fit C breakers for any serious motor loads. Even my 1.5hp planer will take out 13amp cartridge fuses and B16s. Motors are very variable as to whether they will take out 13amp plug fuses or low rated breakers so I would say use 16amp sockets with C breakers just in case.

OK all understood on the hand tool lighting issue. Yes keeping them from harms way is sensible but too deeply recessed could create shadows.
I'd suggest reputable brand linear fittings from leccy wholesaler like TLC and your choice of LED or fluorescent tubes

 

[greeno]

Regarding doing drops, if you've tall furniture that needs to go against the wall it is easier to remove a drop to make space than it is to reroute dado trunking.

 

[Phil]

Coming along nicely Mark.

Just go with as many plugs as you can fit in. It's like machines & tools - you can never have enough

Looks like you will make the Xmas saw-dust deadline comfortably?

 

[TrimTheKing]

Coming along nicely Mark.

Just go with as many plugs as you can fit in. It's like machines & tools - you can never have enough

Looks like you will make the Xmas saw-dust deadline comfortably?

Cheers Phil

That deadline is looming and while I get the odd bit of time lately to get in there, it's in danger...

We lost my wife's father at the weekend to a combination of bowel cancer and leukemia (must have been festering in him for a good while before diagnosis) after just a 7 week period from diagnosis, so as you can imagine, everything else has gone out of the window for now...

I have been in there over the past week and started to get the final insulation around the ridge steel so I can get the flat part of the ceiling up to mount the light panels on, but not sure when I will get back in there tbh.

Life sucks quite bad right now.

 

[Mike G]

I really sorry to hear this Mark. My condolences, and take it easy.

 

[Malc2098]

Sorry to here that, Mark. Empathising; lost F-i-L earlier in the year.

When you're up to it, ask me about the number of sockets.

 

[TrimTheKing]

So being sick of having no mojo and feeling sorry for myself, I had a whole day in the workshop yesterday along with my good mate Mark (yes another one) who is doing my electrics.

Might not look like much but we ran in all the cables for the second ring main (along the front of the building), the lighting circuits, took down a ceiling plasterboard to run the lighting cables under it, replaced it, put up all the timbers for supporting a small flat ceiling St the ridge on which the light panels will go and the air cleaner will hang from, then finally put up a single panel to test!!

Ceiling supports were just gash bits of 6*2 left over from the rafter order. I tried to think of a number of clever ways to connect them and in the end just went with clamping them to the bottom lip of the steel ridge I-beam with another piece of 6*2 on each side and 4 screws into each. I can hang off them, all 13 stone of me, so I have no fear they can do the job.

That panel location is just to test. The air cleaner will go there with two panels either side of it. Should be more than enough!

The cavity in the ridge ceiling will be stuffed with rock wool before plaster-boarding over.

 

[Malc2098]

Looking good!!

Sockets! Get in as many as you can. The stuff I've been doing recently, means I can wheel the cabinet with the pillar drill, or the mortiser etc, over to the TS which has been acting as the make up table, plug in beside me with no cable stretch and I just work where I am without keep going backwards and forwards. We all had a laugh about how many I had, but for the cost, the convenience and even possibly safety is well worth it.

 

[TrimTheKing]

Cheers Malc

I've got 18 doubles around the walls, a separate double on the ceiling for the air cleaner and might possibly hand down a socket if require in the middle of the machine area, another double in the ceiling above my hand tools area, so I think I've covered the bases... :lol:

The light in there with just that one panel last night, after sundown, was adequate so with 4 at full tilt it will be like an operating theatre hopefully!

My mate is coming round in a minute to terminate all the sockets and get the lighting drops in so I can start to finish that ceiling.

I probably won't get any time on it again now until weekend though as I have a lot of work to do up to Wednesday then we bury the FiL on Thursday so I will be down South for two days.

Providing I can keep the mojo and force myself to get out and do bits constantly then Christmas should be attainable... :eusa-whistle: bscene-drinkingcheers:

 

[Malc2098]

If mojo goes for a wander, PM me.

 

[TrimTheKing]

If mojo goes for a wander, PM me.

bscene-drinkingcheers:

 

[Coolhands]

Have you got a link to the led panel, price? it looks good.

 

[TrimTheKing]

Have you got a link to the led panel, price? it looks good.

I paid £18.99 per unit for mine in Feb but the sellet doesn't have the exact ones in any more. Looking at the specs these look the same ones. I need a couple more so will be getting these and hoping they match...

 

[fiveeyes]

Work shop time is excellent therapy. :eusa-pray:

 

[Doug]

Looks like good progress Mark :eusa-clap:

 

[AndyP]

Progress is progress Mark.
ICBA to troll through the thread so are you planning to make a window for that hole or sub it out?

 

[TrimTheKing]

Progress is progress Mark.
ICBA to troll through the thread so are you planning to make a window for that hole or sub it out?

I’m going to make it then the wife has a plan to treat me to a stained glass window to go in there.

 

[AndyP]

Great idea with the Trimble coat of arms perhaps.

 

[AndyP]

I am sure you know this already but just in case

The surname Trimble derives from at least three possible origins. The first of these is, that it may be Anglo-French and topographical in nature, in which case having its origin in the Latin word "tremulare" used to describe the aspen tree, which had the appearance of trembling, so a person residing in close proximity of such a tree or trees. The second possible origin is English and stems from the term "turn the bull" when in medieval times bull baiting was a popular sport and to be able to turn the bull was considered to be a courageous feat. The third possibility derives from the pre 7th century Old English given name "Trumbeort", meaning "strong and bold".

I've no idea which best suits you

 

[RogerS]

Progress is progress Mark.
ICBA to troll through the thread so are you planning to make a window for that hole or sub it out?

I’m going to make it then the wife has a plan to treat me to a stained glass window to go in there.

I can picture it now :lol:

 

[TrimTheKing]

Haha. Yeah I’m aware of a number of variations of theory on the name Andy.

It’s actually going to be the Manchester Bee. I’m a born and (mostly) bred Mancunian and proud of the fact. The bee symbol has always intrigued me and I did a fair bit of research into the history behind it in my early 20’s. Since the suicide bombing there a couple of years ago it has become massively popular as a symbol of Mancunian fortitude.

It will be my link back to my home town now I’ve moved a little away from it.

 

[AndyP]

Great idea. Just make sure it is a worker and not a queen.

 

[TrimTheKing]

Little bit more workshop time today. We buried FiL on Thursday so we’re all trying to get life back to a little normality now and this is mine.

Went out this morning and picked up 4 lengths of batten and ten off 1220*900 sheets of plasterboard.

I was going to buy full sheets and cut them down but these are exactly the right width (900mm) for my ridge ceiling so they are a bit more expensive but saves me any cutting. Painting them up at the moment while my mate is coming round later to run up a wiring loom so I can get these up and lights hung.

Also painting up the lengths of batten which will go the length of the ridge flat at 600mm centres to mount my LED panels and air cleaner from.

Slowly, slowly...let’s see if I can finally be in by ‘a’ Christmas! [emoji1]


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