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Saw this on a TV programme recently and thought the idea rather clever. Basically it creates a vacuum above the lift capsule and up you go !

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Malc2098":umbfmp6k said:
My belly would slurp against the glass!! :D

Given the size of the occupants who went up in one, in the last episode of 'Escape to the Chateau', I don't think you need have any worries, Malc !
 
RogerS":292pdavg said:
Malc2098":292pdavg said:
My belly would slurp against the glass!! :D

Given the size of the occupants who went up in one, in the last episode of 'Escape to the Chateau', I don't think you need have any worries, Malc !

Saw it! Love the show! He's good value for money!
 
Malc2098":1d48pw77 said:
RogerS":1d48pw77 said:
Malc2098":1d48pw77 said:
My belly would slurp against the glass!! :D

Given the size of the occupants who went up in one, in the last episode of 'Escape to the Chateau', I don't think you need have any worries, Malc !

Saw it! Love the show! He's good value for money!

I agree but whenever I see him, I'm just itching to get out a pair of scissors and trim that moustache!
 
An answer in search of a problem. Hauling lifts up with a cable works beautifully well.
 
Mike G":2ytwu20c said:
An answer in search of a problem. Hauling lifts up with a cable works beautifully well.

In a house ? This lift is perfect for a house. Minimum height needed at first floor level is 2.7m. You can't do that with cables.

And cost? No idea what the price would be for a cable lift but I'll wager it is significantly more than this elegant solution.
 
RogerS":37z4tg0v said:
Mike G":37z4tg0v said:
An answer in search of a problem. Hauling lifts up with a cable works beautifully well.

In a house ? This lift is perfect for a house. Minimum height needed at first floor level is 2.7m. You can't do that with cables.

And cost? No idea what the price would be for a cable lift but I'll wager it is significantly more than this elegant solution.


I would have thought a cable could go sideways, as well as up and down. just need a pulley wheel to change direction. then the motor could be anywhere ?

yes .. I think too much ! lol
 
Tusses":2r8mz5sf said:
RogerS":2r8mz5sf said:
Mike G":2r8mz5sf said:
An answer in search of a problem. Hauling lifts up with a cable works beautifully well.

In a house ? This lift is perfect for a house. Minimum height needed at first floor level is 2.7m. You can't do that with cables.

And cost? No idea what the price would be for a cable lift but I'll wager it is significantly more than this elegant solution.


I would have though a cable could go sideways, as well as up and down. just need a pulley wheel to change direction. then the motor could be anywhere ?

Space for the motor and the cables? Sledgehammer approach.
 
RogerS":xblnsjw9 said:
Mike G":xblnsjw9 said:
An answer in search of a problem. Hauling lifts up with a cable works beautifully well.

In a house ? This lift is perfect for a house. Minimum height needed at first floor level is 2.7m. You can't do that with cables.

And cost? No idea what the price would be for a cable lift but I'll wager it is significantly more than this elegant solution.

Nah.....I used to design them into buildings all the time. A lot of disabled lifts are pushed up from below by hydraulics, rather than hauled up from above by cables. But again, simple, known technology which works beautifully, and cheaply. As for floor heights, well, I've designed and overseen disabled lifts which only went up a metre or so. I say again, a vacuum system is utterly unnecessary. It may look neat, with the lack of any visible means of support for the "car", but it's pointless.
 
Mike G":2ogbazd7 said:
RogerS":2ogbazd7 said:
Mike G":2ogbazd7 said:
An answer in search of a problem. Hauling lifts up with a cable works beautifully well.

In a house ? This lift is perfect for a house. Minimum height needed at first floor level is 2.7m. You can't do that with cables.

And cost? No idea what the price would be for a cable lift but I'll wager it is significantly more than this elegant solution.

Nah.....I used to design them into buildings all the time. A lot of disabled lifts are pushed up from below by hydraulics, rather than hauled up from above by cables. But again, simple, known technology which works beautifully, and cheaply. As for floor heights, well, I've designed and overseen disabled lifts which only went up a metre or so. I say again, a vacuum system is utterly unnecessary. It may look neat, with the lack of any visible means of support for the "car", but it's pointless.

Hydraulics....Surely they will need space below the ground floor...sounds like a lot of excavation into foundations and a lot of unnecessary work.

The point regarding the floor height I didn't explain very well. I meant the height between floor and ceiling at the first floor level. All that the vacuum lift needs is 2.7m. Your cables are going to have to go into the loft together with that motor.

And cost-wise ?

How much would a hydraulic lift (including installation and excavation) cost for a normal two-storey house?

Or a cable -lift (including installation). I'd be very curious to know.
 
" I know nothing "

as Manwel would say ! lol

but I am a thinker !
but I'd imagine a counter weighted lift, wouldn't take much moving , however it's powered ?
 
9fingers":3loxc8ha said:
Tusses":3loxc8ha said:
" I know nothing "

as Manwel would say ! lol

but I am a thinker !
but I'd imagine a counter weighted lift, wouldn't take much moving , however it's powered ?

How would you counter weight a lift that has to ascend both empty as well as fully loaded? :eusa-think:

Bob

You could at least counter weight the empty lift weight. Even a little more, so you are lifting the weights when it's empty, or a person or 2 when it's occupied.

I'd go for the lift weight, plus half the intended payload as a starting point for calculations ?
 
Wasn't the point of this lift that there was minimal installation as it only took a day to install?

Also it easily fit in an existing building so taking up minimal space?

Usually it's installation costs that are the dear part of this kind of project so a pre made easily installled unit should offer good savings.

I didn't see the whole programme but saw a little about the lift as the good lady wife watching it, is he married to a designer?
 
Tusses":1g2k30ih said:
9fingers":1g2k30ih said:
Tusses":1g2k30ih said:
" I know nothing "

as Manwel would say ! lol

but I am a thinker !
but I'd imagine a counter weighted lift, wouldn't take much moving , however it's powered ?

How would you counter weight a lift that has to ascend both empty as well as fully loaded? :eusa-think:

Bob

You could at least counter weight the empty lift weight. Even a little more, so you are lifting the weights when it's empty, or a person or 2 when it's occupied.

I'd go for the lift weight, plus half the intended payload as a starting point for calculations ?


I was now heavier than the barrel ........ :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
RogerM":28fvksgk said:
.......I was now heavier than the barrel ........ :lol: :lol: :lol:

Halfway down.......... :lol:
 
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