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Winter is over

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Never needed to mow this early before, by a couple of weeks.

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Daffodils are pushing up. And here is a winter blooming Oregon native called a silktassel (Garrya eliptica). Just about to flower.
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We have catkins out on the hazels. Daffodils are just pushing through as are the snowdrops. Hellebores are all out. Weather has been mild but wet until this week with some heavy frost.
 
Coldest night of the year here last night and forecast to be colder tonight. have just seen on the news that Manchester airport has closed due to "significant snowfall".
 
Nice and crisp here in Warrington still. WBC not seeing the back lanes as critical to gritting, despite these being access roads for huge amounts of lorry access from the M6 to the local trading estate.

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Current overnight forecast -14C here. Subzero all day all week. Track not navigable by car until the thaw comes on Monday. It’s been nice. No pressure to go anywhere.
 
It's odd this. Friends elsewhere in Kent and in London have had snow. We've had nothing at all. It's sunny and all the recent rain has drained down to the Medway. It's chilly though, around minus 2c and I've just been sent outside to restart the dratted oil boiler, which keeps tripping every few days.
 
Curious is it common over your way to put winter tires on?
Varies...
If you are living in the 'uplands' (Peak district / Cumbria / Scotland) then there is probably value in doing so...
I have lived the last 25 years in the Cotswolds and now Bristol and have seen no reason to do so...
Winter tyres are basically a different rubber compound which is more flexible below 7deg C. and we simply don't get enough days a year to make it worthwhile - the downside of them is lower grip / more wear in other conditions.

I am also lucky to work from home, so can choose to not drive most of the time, and I have a classic range rover for bad weather - I have taken it over grouse moors at night in 2ft+ of snow. My wife who works elsewhere (surgeon) has a small 4x4 and when we had our maximum snowfall last week of couple of mm it had no issues at all - drive sensibly and realistically it is not needed for much of the population...

As a result we have no infrastructure generally for storing winter tyres - unlike some European countries where you pop to the tyre company and they swap them and store the other set for you...
 
When I lived in Switzerland, close to the alps, winter tyres were compulsory. November to mid April as I recall.
 
Curious is it common over your way to put winter tires on?
In my particular part of the country we see snow that actually settles on the roads about once every three or four years, so it's summer tyres year round here. Even cross-seasons aren't worth it for most people, leaving aside the problems of storage that Alasdair mentioned already.
 
Thanks, the not driving sensibly is a problem over here. Always people driving too fast and to close to the vehicle in front.
My biggest complaint is the ones who don't clear the snow off their vehicle and you end up with a load of snow crashing into your windshield.
 
This is my third winter here and I've yet to see any proper snow. A couple of flurries in the air, but nothing that makes the ground look even vaguely white. But rain... Ye gods. Last winter it started to rain in September and we had something like 7 rain-free days in the following six months. 2024 was the wettest year on record in France and now I have had to park my car round the corner in front of our (absent) neighbours' house, where there is hard standing, because the ground in front of my barn is a chewed up quagmire.
 
We were lucky. Around here the main roads are always gritted, but the first few hundred yards are usually the problem. My wife goes to work at 7.15am so we decided to get a spare set of wheels from the scrap yard and put winter tyres on them. I mentioned this to my neighbour and she said she'd ask her friend, a chap who dabbles in all manner of things (he's one of those people who seem to make money on everything they touch). A couple of days later she said Steve's got wheels, they've got winter tyres on them - £120 - do you want to look at them? No I said, tell him I'll take them. He dropped them off to me and they were winter Continentals that had barely touched the road. That was about three years ago and they're doing well.
 
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We were told that we’d need a 4WD to access this house in winter when we moved here (in the hills of Cumbria), but this is the first time in 6 years that we’ve had an extended period when it wouldn’t be safe to drive our 2WD car (no snow tyres). We just stocked up on provisions when we saw the forecast. A 3 mile walk would get us to clear roads and our neighbours are well equipped with 4WD vehicles in an emergency. I have been careful not to injure myself this week though. No way an ambulance would make it. We’ll probably leave our car in the lowlands next time there’s snow & ice in the forecast.
 
This is my third winter here and I've yet to see any proper snow. A couple of flurries in the air, but nothing that makes the ground look even vaguely white. But rain... Ye gods. Last winter it started to rain in September and we had something like 7 rain-free days in the following six months. 2024 was the wettest year on record in France and now I have had to park my car round the corner in front of our (absent) neighbours' house, where there is hard standing, because the ground in front of my barn is a chewed up quagmire.
That sounds like a mess to deal with, do you have alot of clay in your area?
 
I've mountaineered across Britain, Duke, for about 30 years, so this in summary: I think it is fair to say, we don't get snow dwelling for long (below 1,000ft) and snow tyres are considered overkill when you have maybe three days of "being snowed in" for most locations,before the 2-3" deposited melts.
Living in known high spots, from Dartmoor in the far south, through the Peak and Lake Districts, and near enough anywhere north of The Great Glen in Scotland, different picture. 4WD's VERY desirable, snow chains (and their less durable cousins, "snow slippers") considered by many as the minimum.
Brits in general, outside the high zones, tend to overrract to even mild falls of snow (that should start something akin to a 'sharpening war') instead of just getting on with it. Wimps!
I'm a few miles north of Lons, just above NuuKassel (as pronounced in Geordie) and my ground, in the shadows, has not thawed in just over a week, including the beach sand on the coast 4 miles away.
"Nae probs, big Monn" as they say. Walk carefully, look out for black ice (last Saturday was dire for it) and drive like your maiden auntie: slow. Our present massive issue is the increased flooding brought about by changes in our weather patterns - and, 'Oh Boy', does melting snow contribute in this respect.
Most of our island nation is too close to the sea (maritime influence) to get the really low winter temperatures and associated low humidity of central continental venues like in Canada's Alberta, Saskatchewan, etc, so instead of sustained winter and lingering drifts, we get 7-10 day fluctuations either side of freezing. Going to be 8-10°C here in about four days time, apparently. -8°C last night and previous one, according to my Mickey Mouse thermometer.
 
I've been running on good quality all season tyres for the past 7 years and get in excess of 20,000 miles of fairly spirited driving. I'd get better life from summer tyres but they are not so effective at temperatures under 7C and this is a cold part of the UK. My car is an AWD SUV and they seem to suit it well and give me confidence in all weathers.

Problems on the roads in the UK are caused by drivers either acting stupidly or having little or no experience driving in poor conditions. Years ago when periods of snow were far more regular and all our cars except Mini were RWD we coped very well with a sack of coal or sand in the boot and a dose of good old common sense.
 
I've been running on good quality all season tyres for the past 7 years and get in excess of 20,000 miles of fairly spirited driving. I'd get better life from summer tyres but they are not so effective at temperatures under 7C and this is a cold part of the UK. My car is an AWD SUV and they seem to suit it well and give me confidence in all weathers.

Problems on the roads in the UK are caused by drivers either acting stupidly or having little or no experience driving in poor conditions. Years ago when periods of snow were far more regular and all our cars except Mini were RWD we coped very well with a sack of coal or sand in the boot and a dose of good old common sense.
I'll second that on drivers acting stupidly, I drove to Aberdeenshire on Monday 6th and reaching the snow covered roads on the A90 about 7.00am, road was down to one lane with the outside about an inch of snow covering (not a lot) there were around 8-10 cars in front of me the lane I was in toddling along about 55mph. From the back of the line a car pulled out and shot down the snow covered outside lane as he tried to overtake the plow/gritter at the front of the line the back end (of the BMW) skewed to the left and the driver lost control sliding into teh gritter and was caught side on by the car behind. Luckily the everyone was ok but his impatience and lack of knowledge/experience with his car or just impatience resulted in a very avoidable accident.
 
The last time I used the tracksaw, it was +17C. Yesterday, I used it at -7C. With the change in size of the track & saw, the cut ended up taking another mm or so off the splinter guard strip. Plus the strip is now rougher than it was. I guess the strip was hard frozen and chipped a bit during the cut.
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Not much snow in Kent but amazing how localised the variation is. Go up towards the downs from us and there was some snow which makes sense, but travel only 5 miles in the other direction they also had a bit of snow!

Got back to Gatwick at 11pm last night. Wasn't fun last night trying to get the snow off, which had half thawed and turned to 10mm of ice slumped on my wipers! Broke my scraper in the process!
 
I've been running on good quality all season tyres for the past 7 years and get in excess of 20,000 miles of fairly spirited driving. I'd get better life from summer tyres but they are not so effective at temperatures under 7C and this is a cold part of the UK. My car is an AWD SUV and they seem to suit it well and give me confidence in all weathers.

Problems on the roads in the UK are caused by drivers either acting stupidly or having little or no experience driving in poor conditions. Years ago when periods of snow were far more regular and all our cars except Mini were RWD we coped very well with a sack of coal or sand in the boot and a dose of good old common sense.
Pity the poor Mazda owner who, like me, has their car equipped from new with Toyo Gripless tyres. Our car was a 4 year old secondhand with just 4000 miles on the clock. So the Gripless still had loads of tread left and I couldn’t justify shelling out over £800 for a decent set of Michelin Cross Climate’s. Those lousy Gripless tyres render the 4WD on the car pointless.
 
Pity the poor Mazda owner who, like me, has their car equipped from new with Toyo Gripless tyres. Our car was a 4 year old secondhand with just 4000 miles on the clock. So the Gripless still had loads of tread left and I couldn’t justify shelling out over £800 for a decent set of Michelin Cross Climate’s. Those lousy Gripless tyres render the 4WD on the car pointless.
Especially when you have to negotiate a hill to get to your abode Roger. 😢
 
Pity the poor Mazda owner who, like me, has their car equipped from new with Toyo Gripless tyres. Our car was a 4 year old secondhand with just 4000 miles on the clock. So the Gripless still had loads of tread left and I couldn’t justify shelling out over £800 for a decent set of Michelin Cross Climate’s. Those lousy Gripless tyres render the 4WD on the car pointless.
I had toyo overlanders on my van great tyres and not noisy either...

A xc70 or Skoda Octavia scout would suit me!
 
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