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Winter solstice

Cold months are dec Nov and feb here in the uk. Sun has less effect on our weather than the sea temperatures.
But surely tomorrow should be new year’s day?? The reason it’s not is to do with the Romans apparently. What did they ever do for us?
 
Sea temperature has more effect on our weather than sun, but sea temperature is in turn affected by the sun. The thing is that the amount of sunlight doesn't determine the temperature, it determines the change in temperature. When days are shortest isn't when temperatures are lowest, it's when temperatures are decreasing the fastest - similarly the longest day is when temperatures will be rising fastest. From tomorrow onwards the days might be getting longer, but they're still short which means average temperatures are still falling, and the temperatures will only start to rise once the day length gets closer to average. That's why the seasons as we perceive them lag significantly behind the day/night length.

Think of it like a steering wheel - when you stop moving the wheel further left isn't when you stop turning; you still have to bring the wheel back to centre, and you'll still be turning further left until you get there, even though the wheel's moving to the right.
 
I kind of agree with Lurker. Winter solstice for me marks the end of Autumn and the beginning of winter. Very glad that this depressing darkness and greyness will start to ease.
 
From memory, I think tomorrow will have 6 seconds more daylight than today. I'll take any positive I can at the moment!
 
Mike G said:
From memory, I think tomorrow will have 6 seconds more daylight than today. I'll take any positive I can at the moment!
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4 seconds.
Christmas Eve it’s 11 seconds.


www.timeanddate.com

Sunrise and sunset times in Loughborough

Calculations of sunrise and sunset in Loughborough – England – United Kingdom for March 2026. Generic astronomy calculator to calculate times for sunrise, sunset, moonrise, moonset for many cities, with daylight saving time and time zones taken in account.
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Alter location to taste.
 
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spb said:
Sea temperature has more effect on our weather than sun, but sea temperature is in turn affected by the sun. The thing is that the amount of sunlight doesn't determine the temperature, it determines the change in temperature. When days are shortest isn't when temperatures are lowest, it's when temperatures are decreasing the fastest - similarly the longest day is when temperatures will be rising fastest. From tomorrow onwards the days might be getting longer, but they're still short which means average temperatures are still falling, and the temperatures will only start to rise once the day length gets closer to average. That's why the seasons as we perceive them lag significantly behind the day/night length.

Think of it like a steering wheel - when you stop moving the wheel further left isn't when you stop turning; you still have to bring the wheel back to centre, and you'll still be turning further left until you get there, even though the wheel's moving to the right.
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Not sure what season I was in today but did spend some time outside in T-shirt and shorts
 
Love it, GaryR. The sun today rose SSE…never got more than about 20 degrees above the horizon….then set SSW. Don’t know why it bothered :)
 
The point about sea temperatures lagging the air temperature is not lost on New Year's day bathers. I read somewhere that the sea is typically warmer on Jan 1 than on June1 at Brighton where there is always a group taking the plunge on Jan 1.
 
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