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Steve Maskery

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Did anyone hear the story on PM yesterday about Only Fans?
Apparently it's a Patreon-style video platform. Recently it decided to ban what one might call "adult-interest" content. And then even more recently, it has decided not to do so after all, presumably because it is a huge proportion of its content and therefore income.

Evan Davis interviewed an American lady who features on the platform and has been affected by this uncertainty. She been strutting her stuff for about a year. Evan asked her how much she earned from her films. About $60K. That's not 60K per annum, you understand, it's 60K PER MONTH. Half a million quid a year.

I realise that sex is more attractive than woodwork to the vast majority of the world's male population (I can't speak for the ladies), but really??? The value that we as a society put on stuff never ceases to amaze, and, sadly, depress me.
 
Ditch the braces & get the mankini on Steve there’s a market on the web for everything, it’s only your dignity you’ve got to lose & from what folks will do in the name of entertainment these days it would appear no one cares about that.
 
If only you could train a cat to sit on your bench looking after your pencils.




…… or a small wallaby; they have pockets!
 
Got wood, staring Steve Maskery.
"Today folks, we are going to talk about the right tools for measuring your wood, what do if it's a tad short and different methods for polishing your wood when you don't have the tools you need. as always ive got Cindy with me to help finish the job" :eusa-naughty:
 
I've followed this in the press. It seems there are those that make a fortune but it also attracts the vulnerable who end up being mentally scarred after doing something they did not realise had consequences.

Slightly tangential but there was a girl at work who went on a programme called Naked Attraction which is like Blind Date but with no clothes. Unfortunately we're not allowed to sack people on the grounds of them being stupid ...

Please keep your clothes on Steve if only on the grounds of Health and Safety!
 
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"And today we're going to discuss coopers' tools..."

Don't walk, RUN away... :o
 
Steve - I fear you are making the mistake of confusing what is clever with what is lucrative. I could never have the skill of most musicians, and yet many are barely scraping a living. What's that old saying in advertising? "SEX SELLS".
 
Could you get into non-fungible tokens for your work Steve. I’ve no idea either must some kid has just made 1000s from pictures of whales.
 
Steve Maskery":1c6jfl6b said:
....................The value that we as a society put on stuff never ceases to amaze, and, sadly, depress me.

Kind of related - browsing the job sites this week I snapped this, and had a similar conversation with a few friends.

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It's because our Governments of all persuasions think that this country's growth and survival should be based on the service industry.

Sadly.

(and said in a more philosophical way and applies to both Labour and Conservative ...so apolitical)
 
Peri":2pxgzwhq said:
Steve Maskery":2pxgzwhq said:
....................The value that we as a society put on stuff never ceases to amaze, and, sadly, depress me.

Kind of related - browsing the job sites this week I snapped this, and had a similar conversation with a few friends.


I’m guessing judging by the bloke who just dropped off my pizza that £10 an hour domino driver will include his vehicle & fuel so hardly a comparison
 
Thing I can't work out is why anyone would pay to watch this when there's so much free porn available out there. Not that I can confirm this, of course. Just saying.
 
RogerS":xi2dc7kr said:
Thing I can't work out is why anyone would pay to watch this when there's so much free porn available out there. Not that I can confirm this, of course. Just saying.

It's probably something similar to the video game streaming business, people will pay to subscribe to their favourite streamers and even in some cases donate ludicrous amounts of money to them, hundreds and even sometimes thousands of pounds in donations, just to watch someone play video games :eusa-think:
 
I am somewhat afraid that its a new world dawning and we will get left behind. Im only 40, I consider myself to be relatively modern* (except video games, which im crap at) and yet I can not fathom the social media industry and how anybody (Steve included) makes money from it. Let alone vast amounts. Its a economic alteration that defies almost all predictions excluding very much "out there" theories from what were considered as slightly wacky.

*i am aware that by saying this I prove that I am somewhat not modern. :D
 
I am with you there Dave. And I've nearly 20 years on you. I'm currently struggling to offer advice to my 18 yr daughter who is beginning to think about uni. I was working at 16 selling typewriter ribbons :shock: .
When those space invader tables were first introduced in to our local I was crap at those too.
 
Peri":2q84mkow said:
Steve Maskery":2q84mkow said:
....................The value that we as a society put on stuff never ceases to amaze, and, sadly, depress me.

Kind of related - browsing the job sites this week I snapped this, and had a similar conversation with a few friends.


Possibly an unforeseen consequence of a national minimum wage - it's not just a minimum, it's a target.
 
Society has taken the moral compass to the blender and then thrown it in the crapper.

Social media has turned everything into instant gratification and lives run by likes and shares, consumerism gone mad. Only fans has been around a while and you see these people drum up business for their channels on social media...i just wonder what their parents think of all this.

It's easy to see how this has come about, look at the rubbish on TV, everything is reality TV shows with nonsense like love island etc. There are very few good shows and even fewer talented actors these days.

"Influencers" are another talentless lot idiots with self importance higher than the Orange one.

On the upside, I have learnt a couple of new words during the great pandemic. Simp, Incel, and there was another i don't recall

if you want to know where we are heading, check out a movie called idiocracy.

i give up.
 
Craig Salisbury":rpvo045k said:
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On the upside, I have learnt a couple of new words during the great pandemic. Simp, Incel, and there was another i don't recall

Woke ?

Craig Salisbury":rpvo045k said:
if you want to know where we are heading, check out a movie called idiocracy.

i give up.

I had to walk out halfway through as I found it so utterly depressing. You are correct. It is where we are heading and, sadly, well on the way.

I didn't realise that the accepted norm now amongst teenagers is that if a guy wants a kiss then he'll simply go up to the girl and grab her by the throat. Where's the moral compass gone ? I blame social media 100%. Zukerberg needs to be in The Hague on a charge of 'Crime against Humanity'. Along with Dorsey.
 
There is a tiny bit of encouragement in my own situation. Ususally my films get seen a FEW hundred times in the first couple of months and then just sit there, taking years to reach any significant numbers. But I made a film in April and it appears to be doing much, much better than usual:
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The grey line near the bottom is Usual Performance and the blue line is for this film. I'll leave you to guess the monetary value of the film so far...

The majority of views come from YouTube suggesting it to viewers, which tells me what I have long suspected - that if YouTube do not present you to the world, you stand very little chance of widening your audience. I usually do put my films on Facebook, both as Steve Maskery and as Workshop Essentials, but the viewing from that is usually in single figures. Which is fine by me as the less I have to do with Facebook, the happier I am.

So we'll see where it gets to. But it's a very long way from where it needs to be. I watch an Italian bloke called Pasquale and he get tens of thousands of views in the first hour. I'm seriously thinking about doing some recipe films. Big Steve's Little Kitchen, Solo Gourmet, that sort of thing. Talking of which, I'm late for dinner.
 
RogerS":2mbymjb2 said:
Craig Salisbury":2mbymjb2 said:
....

On the upside, I have learnt a couple of new words during the great pandemic. Simp, Incel, and there was another i don't recall

Woke ?

Craig Salisbury":2mbymjb2 said:
if you want to know where we are heading, check out a movie called idiocracy.

i give up.

I had to walk out halfway through as I found it so utterly depressing. You are correct. It is where we are heading and, sadly, well on the way.

I didn't realise that the accepted norm now amongst teenagers is that if a guy wants a kiss then he'll simply go up to the girl and grab her by the throat. Where's the moral compass gone ? I blame social media 100%. Zukerberg needs to be in The Hague on a charge of 'Crime against Humanity'. Along with Dorsey.

I wouldn't go as far as 100%, we have consecutive spineless governments let the far left get away with everything just in case they get called an 'ist, or 'ic or something else that stokes division. i read a post earlier, cant remember which that was blaming the old place for covert racism, sexism, homophobia etc. I see these terms are used to divide society rather than bring it together. but then i'm also a fan of free speech and the consequences of such, i.e. call someone something derogatory and get a punch in the face hole, you'll think twice about doing it again.

i think i missed a turn here somewhere and went all tangenty
 
Steve Maskery":nxypzirz said:
There is a tiny bit of encouragement in my own situation. Ususally my films get seen a FEW hundred times in the first couple of months and then just sit there, taking years to reach any significant numbers. But I made a film in April and it appears to be doing much, much better than usual:

The grey line near the bottom is Usual Performance and the blue line is for this film. I'll leave you to guess the monetary value of the film so far...

The majority of views come from YouTube suggesting it to viewers, which tells me what I have long suspected - that if YouTube do not present you to the world, you stand very little chance of widening your audience. I usually do put my films on Facebook, both as Steve Maskery and as Workshop Essentials, but the viewing from that is usually in single figures. Which is fine by me as the less I have to do with Facebook, the happier I am.

So we'll see where it gets to. But it's a very long way from where it needs to be. I watch an Italian bloke called Pasquale and he get tens of thousands of views in the first hour. I'm seriously thinking about doing some recipe films. Big Steve's Little Kitchen, Solo Gourmet, that sort of thing. Talking of which, I'm late for dinner.


Ill keep watching as long as you keep your clothes on Steve ;)
 
ah the joys of youtube analytics.
the more views you get, the more youtube pushes you and the more views you get (yes it makes sense, sort of).
recipes for woodworkers, start by making the knife handles, then make the meal. :lol:
 
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