Looking for a little metalworking help, please

[RogerS]

We've bought this old gate from a scrapyard for a tenner. That in itself was a winner. My rule in scrapyards is never ask first the price of the one thing you want. Place it at position 3 or 4. All the other gates were £40 and up ....

I digress. I'd like to commission someone to make a couple of metal supports for the hinge points if possible. I have no idea of the best way to do this. They could simply be a spigot welded onto some square section. Or round. The only sensible thought I've had is for it to end up welded to some screwed thread that I can then epoxy into the stone wall.

 

[novocaine]

I reckons i has the stock in the pile for that Roger. Please measure the hole and let me know the offset you want. A think a plate and pin would be the easiest and let you fit it to whatever you want. If you want a pin instead i can do that easy enough and leave enough that you could just drill through the post and bolt the other side.

 

[RogerS]

Thanks Dave.

Offset...now you're asking...what do you mean by that...even though I got metalworking 'O' level that was a long, long time ago !

The 'pivot' (for want of a better word) will be going into stone hence my suggestion re threaded rod at that pint to give a key to the epoxy. But open to suggestions, thanks.

 

[novocaine]

Ok, gap between post and gate instead of fancy words like offset. :lol: how much pin do you want sticking out the wall?

 

[Lurker]

https://www.ironmongerydirect.co.uk/pro ... sed-417409

 

[RogerS]

https://www.ironmongerydirect.co.uk/product/adjustable-gate-eye-200mm-for-19mm-pin-galvanised-417409

Nice idea but it's going to look out of place with the rest of the gate.

 

[Lurker]

I thought that you wanted a threaded bar to epoxy into the wall.
You could use these if they are long enough, and then put a bolt through the eye of this and also the “gate eye”.

 

[RogerS]

I thought that you wanted a threaded bar to epoxy into the wall.
You could use these if they are long enough, and then put a bolt through the eye of this and also the “gate eye”.

I realise that but a pin sticking up onto which the gate is dropped would look more elegant plus minimal thread on display.

 

[Lurker]

https://www.ironmongerydirect.co.uk/pro ... sed-635067

 

[Mike G]

I think the most important question, Roger, is what this attaches to. If it's a wonky old dry stone wall then you'll have a different solution compared with a neat brick wall or a wooden fence. If this is light duty and you don't need built-in adjustment, then a back plate with a couple of screw holes for screwing-and-plugging is a decent solution. A wonky old wall will mean you need adjustment, and so a shaft epoxied into a hole for each hinge will give you a chance of getting the gate in the right place. So, a bit more info, or a photo or two....

 

[RogerS]

.....A wonky old wall will mean you need adjustment, and so a shaft epoxied into a hole for each hinge will give you a chance of getting the gate in the right place. So, a bit more info, or a photo or two....

You've got it in one, Mike.

 

[novocaine]

.....A wonky old wall will mean you need adjustment, and so a shaft epoxied into a hole for each hinge will give you a chance of getting the gate in the right place. So, a bit more info, or a photo or two....

You've got it in one, Mike.

I will need measurements for both pins then Roger.

 

[RogerS]

Thanks, Dave.

Pin diameter can be 8-10mm. Length 40mm. No need for any sort of securing mechanism to stop the gate being lifted off.

Offset - 1 off 100mm plus length of the threaded portion.
1 off 80mm plus length of the threaded portion.





I hope that's OK ?

 

[novocaine]

I shall get you a drawing this evening (I haven't got a fag packet in work) and then get started.

cover postage only, if you don't mind.

 

[RogerS]

I shall get you a drawing this evening (I haven't got a fag packet in work) and then get started.

cover postage only, if you don't mind.

I don't mind at all. Donation also to a charity of your choice perhaps ?

 

[novocaine]

I shall get you a drawing this evening (I haven't got a fag packet in work) and then get started.

cover postage only, if you don't mind.

I don't mind at all. Donation also to a charity of your choice perhaps ?

If you feel the need, but it isn't compulsory and you can pick a charity. I prefer my donations to charity to come from the pot I put to the side and remain my own business, don't ask why, I'm just weird. bscene-drinkingcheers:

 

[RogerS]

I shall get you a drawing this evening (I haven't got a fag packet in work) and then get started.

cover postage only, if you don't mind.

I don't mind at all. Donation also to a charity of your choice perhaps ?

If you feel the need, but it isn't compulsory and you can pick a charity. I prefer my donations to charity to come from the pot I put to the side and remain my own business, don't ask why, I'm just weird. bscene-drinkingcheers:

No worries. I'll give some money to the RBF.

 

[novocaine]

Somefink like this? Simply utilitarian and robust.

 

[RogerS]

Absolutely spot on, Dave :eusa-clap: bscene-drinkingcheers:

 

[novocaine]

Absolutely spot on, Dave :eusa-clap: bscene-drinkingcheers:

Cool. I'll get them sorted over the weekend.

 

[RogerS]

Absolutely spot on, Dave :eusa-clap: bscene-drinkingcheers:

Cool. I'll get them sorted over the weekend.

Thanks Dave. The length of the screwed thread part? Probably 75mm? Is that OK ?

 

[novocaine]

Absolutely spot on, Dave :eusa-clap: bscene-drinkingcheers:

Cool. I'll get them sorted over the weekend.

Thanks Dave. The length of the screwed thread part? Probably 75mm? Is that OK ?

Yep, though it won't be a perfect thread for the last 25mm as I'm cheating a bit and using a coach bolt, save me having to cut threads and better steel than threaded rod. I'll leave them a tad long so you can make of it what you wish. Or I can flip it round and have 50mm off thread on the end with a clear shank on the middle.

 

[RogerS]

Cool. I'll get them sorted over the weekend.

Thanks Dave. The length of the screwed thread part? Probably 75mm? Is that OK ?

Yep, though it won't be a perfect thread for the last 25mm as I'm cheating a bit and using a coach bolt, save me having to cut threads and better steel than threaded rod. I'll leave them a tad long so you can make of it what you wish. Or I can flip it round and have 50mm off thread on the end with a clear shank on the middle.

Oh clever...I like that :eusa-clap:

Clear shank in the middle please.

 

[novocaine]

Pm me your address and I'll check postage on monday.

 

[RogerS]

Oh those are perfect thanks, Dave bscene-drinkingcheers: bscene-drinkingbuddies:

Will do.

 

[RogerS]

Huge thanks and kudos to Dave (Novocaine) :eusa-clap: bscene-drinkingcheers:

Now painted and fitted.





The gate itself needs some fettling and painting.

Not too sure what to do about making these as I'm lathe-less?

 

[TrimTheKing]

Not too sure what to do about making these as I'm lathe-less?

Mounted in a drill and drill fixed to bench somehow...

 

[novocaine]

That'll do.
bscene-drinkingcheers:

 

[DaveL]

Huge thanks and kudos to Dave (Novocaine) :eusa-clap: bscene-drinkingcheers:

Now painted and fitted.





The gate itself needs some fettling and painting.

Not too sure what to do about making these as I'm lathe-less?

If you new ones turned, then a sketch with dimensions and if you have a preference for the wood, I am sure I could spin some up for you.
I do have some iroko, which would be my choice.

 

[RogerS]

Thanks, Dave. That would be really kind of you. Would it be better if I removed one and sent it to you ?

 

[novocaine]

Finnels. I wouldn't bother turning them in wood . id add a 1/2" bar to these and glue them in to the top of the upright because the gates 200 miles away from my workshop.

 

[novocaine]

If that doesnt float your boat id buy a pair of wood balls and screw them on. Or get Dave to see you right. Goes with the name. :lol:

 

[DaveL]

Thanks, Dave. That would be really kind of you. Would it be better if I removed one and sent it to you ?

That sounds like a good plan, I will PM you my address.

 

[DaveL]

Well Roger posted the old finnels to me, they arrived very quickly.

I had just a small piece of iroko that was given to me some years ago by Nick Webb at one of my bashs.

I cut a bit of and sawed it to rough size.

So this is what I was aiming for

But I managed to get a catch! it can happen to anyone

But after cutting some more blanks and a bit more careful turning I have these

I not6ice that they are note quite the same, I still have another bank cut, I could turn another to get a proper pair you if want Roger?

 

[RogerS]

They look very good, Dave. :eusa-clap:

Would it be possible to turn up a pair exactly as the originals and then LOML can decide ?

 

[DaveL]

Well I have had another go at these.



I think I am closer to the originals, I have turned the posts with a smaller section on the end as I think looking at the supplied one, they go into a square hole. I hope the small section will fit in the hole and a tap with a mallet will shown what if any of the thicker part needs to be pared off.
I hope the LOYL finds them OK.
I have a box to post them in and if the Post office is still open I will post them when I go into town.

 

[RogerS]

Fantastic work, thank you, Dave. :eusa-clap: :eusa-dance: We really appreciate you doing this.

So that's LOML's Xmas present sorted

Can I send you anything ?

Rog

 

[Lons]

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Nice bit of turning Andy. :eusa-clap:

So that's LOML's Xmas present sorted Rog

Cheapskate Roger. I thought you were going to get her Mercedes SL

 

[DaveL]

Fantastic work, thank you, Dave. :eusa-clap: :eusa-dance: We really appreciate you doing this.

So that's LOML's Xmas present sorted

Can I send you anything ?

Rog

Well if I had known they were a Xmas present, I would have wrapped them on some suitable paper.[emoji38]

Don't worry about sending me anything, I have more stuff in the shop than you could shake a stick at.[emoji15]

It made the lady on the Post Office smile when she asked what was in the parcel.[emoji3]

 

[DaveL]

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Nice bit of turning Andy. :eusa-clap:

Ok so who is Andy?