I can see it completed as far as a 'User' though, so perhaps time for some realism in somebody's expectationI can't see the table being done for the revised deadline of next Sunday.
I can see it completed as far as a 'User' though, so perhaps time for some realism in somebody's expectationI can't see the table being done for the revised deadline of next Sunday.
Oh, no, explosions aren't my wife's way. She understands. I think the aim is to have the undercarriage inside, and the table top in the workshop for any party-goers who are interested.I can see it completed as far as a 'User' though, so perhaps time for some realism in somebody's expectation(I'm far enough away not to be bothered by the explosion)
No, it doesn't need to be used. It's because 3 or 4 villagers said they wanted to see it, that's all.What's the value of the undercarriage being inside...?
Temporary top on it for usability?
The top will likely only have had 2 coats of jollop on it by then, and will need 4 or 5 altogether. I'm not carrying it in (or out) more than once, and I can't apply the finish inside because it stinks, apparently. The pedestals are easy to carry in and out, so they can go back out to be properly finished.Can't you use a table cloth temporarily, perhaps with a waterproof protector underneath?
I'm doing those bits now, and they're much much flatter. The 2" boards are almost blemish-free, so flattening is easy.A someone with a wonky table top can I make a suggestion that you flatten the areas where you expect each place setting to be? Trying to use knife and fork on a plate which is wobbling isn't an enjoyable experience![]()
Yes, exactly that, Matt. With any luck, and if the phone doesn't ring, I'll tackle those tomorrow.Might have missed it, but am I correct in saying you'll have 2" breadboard end so the table has the appearance of all being 2"?



















PPS: you are even more optimistic than me on timescales. You should know better by now Mike.Great stuff.
PS: People like you and me for that matter never actually retire. We just pretend and just slow down ever so slightly.
We're not done with the wedges yet!So glad you’re using wedges as I was reading it and thinking that this can’t possibly go together, oh me of little faith!
Always useful also if the floor isn't level Mike, though if you laid it then it will be spot on.We're not done with the wedges yet!
I laid it, yes. Let's leave it at that, shall we........Always useful also if the floor isn't level Mike, though if you laid it then it will be spot on.
No, the boards ARE glued to each other, or at least, will be (the centre 2 boards already are). The breadboard ends are mainly to resist cupping or twisting, but I've exploited their existence by using them to hide 1" boards in the middle of the table. The allowance for movement is designed such that the boards are fixed in the middle of the table, and the outer edges can drift in or out. Obviously any movement will show at the junction with the ends of the breadboard ends. The table top will therefore be one complete entity, and will be dropped onto the base, and wedged tight. Wedging the top on is a bit of a game, really, because I wanted to avoid using any metal fixings. Otherwise, I would have done buttons.I know very little about older furniture but is the top construction common approach? If I've understood it, the boards won't be connected to each other down their length just by the breadboard ends, is there a chance of movement or is that just part of the aesthetic? Before installing the ends you put the top onto the pedestals and fix in place with sliding dovetails and wedges?
Ours from somewhere * around mid 1500's has three rather roughly chamfered planks underneath at 90 degrees to the top and these are nailed on with ginormous nails from top and bottom. There is no t&g in the boards so there are gaps and all three boards are a different width. The top is very thick and too heavy for my wife to lift one end (bear in mind she is used to helping me with oak framing so she's a tough cookie).While I am sure that Mike will have worked out an effective way of fixing his table top, the discussion here left me wondering how big old trestle tables were joined together back in the fifteenth or sixteenth century.
Frustratingly, although I have a couple of books that show historic construction, they leave out this detail. Maybe museum curators don't like anyone trying to dismantle their exhibits.
I did find one answer, in Furniture in England, The Age of the Joiner, by Wolsey and Luff, published 1968.
It says that the planks might be joined along their length by tongueing and grooving, or by fixing with dowels or large nails. Or by cross battens, or by grooving the edges for 3" wide tongues, pegged with dowels on either side of the join.
It goes on to say that the tops could be just laid loose on the trestles or else be drilled for large vertical dowels or tongues fixed in the trestles.
Apparently gravity did enough, but the authors do refer at this point to tops up to 6" thick.![]()



















I might have missed something but why the 1"boards for the middle two planks?No, the boards ARE glued to each other, or at least, will be (the centre 2 boards already are). The breadboard ends are mainly to resist cupping or twisting, but I've exploited their existence by using them to hide 1" boards in the middle of the table. The allowance for movement is designed such that the boards are fixed in the middle of the table, and the outer edges can drift in or out. Obviously any movement will show at the junction with the ends of the breadboard ends. The table top will therefore be one complete entity, and will be dropped onto the base, and wedged tight. Wedging the top on is a bit of a game, really, because I wanted to avoid using any metal fixings. Otherwise, I would have done buttons.
















I might have missed something but why the 1"boards for the middle two planks?
Would it not be simpler to use 2" boards across width?
I quite agree, pls remember when I wip my bench.Mainly the weight. It's already massively heavy, and I've got to rope some friends in to carry it into the house in due course. But also cost. No point buying wood you'll never see.
Egg lift?I quite agree, pls remember when I wip my bench.
I can’t quite get my head around the recessed wedges but I’m sure all will be apparent soon. Which is more than I can say as to what you’ve been using the egg lift for in this build haha!
Edit, yes I understand it now.
Pleased? Yes, I think so. I'll be pleased when the finish is done, because I always worry about finishing.Enjoyable as ever to follow. Are you pleased?
With a top as heavy as that I wonder if it actually needs fixing. My table top, nowhere near as heavy, has been floating since day one and never caused a problem.
Wow! Your parties must be funI always have in mind the possibility of an escaped baby elephant crashing into it, or a drunken sumo wrestler using it for practice....
I'll second that. I also like that it will continue to look better as it ages.Really enjoyed this WIP Mike, the table is going to look spectacular.
Exhibit A my Lord.






















