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Dr.Al

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If I had to pick the tools that I enjoy using the most, it would be a dead heat between five: the metalworking lathe, my home-made block plane, a Stanley #4, a Veritas router plane and the humble chisel (probably the curvaceous Ashley Iles 12 mm dovetail chisel if I had to pick one). If I had to pick just one then the block plane would probably win over-all for the simple reason that I like using home-made tools.

If, on the other hand, I had to characterise the sort of project I would put at the top of the list, I think I would describe it as "using tools that I've made to make more tools". This project fits into that category and in fact goes a little further in that I used several home-made tools (including soft jaws, motorised axes on both the lathe and mill as well as some others) to make the tool that I'm using to make this tool!

The project, which I expect to have a few goes at before I'm completely happy with it, is to make a mallet. I've never used a cylindrical mallet (I usually use one of these Thor ones) so I don't know how much it'll get used in the end. However, my other half would also like one for leather-work projects (she currently uses an identical Thor one) so inevitably I'll make a few as we both figure out what sort of weight and handle shape works for each of us.

Like many others before me, I'm starting with a Lignum Vitae Crown Green bowling ball. My other half bought four of them. One had an enormous chunk missing from it so has been turned into a small bowl. The other three are for two mallets (with a spare for when I make mistakes).

The first job (which I'd do differently next time) was to drill a 30 mm hole in the end of the ball with a Forstner bit. I did this in a slightly iffy fashion:

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I was being lazy and it went fine, but when I do the next one I'll make a simple fixture to hold the ball a bit more rigidly rather than just relying on hand strength (and the fact it's round so won't do much damage if it catches). I'd also try to drill all the way through rather than about two thirds of the way as that would improve the chances of a good concentric hole (although in practice it was fine).

I wasn't sure how I would find the mother-of-pearl inlay to drill but the Forstner bit didn't seem to struggle at all (it just covered the pillar drill in white dust).

With the hole drilled, I could mount the bowling ball on the lathe using some pin chuck jaws (which are designed to grip a 30 mm hole) and then drill in from the other end until I met the first hole:

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There was then nothing for it but to start to turn. I started with a carbide insert tool to rough it to a concentric round (the hole through the middle wasn't exactly centred). That made a lot of fine dust but coped wth the hard wood just fine:

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The carbide tool leaves a rather rough finish:

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I can't remember what tool I switched to next but judging by the photo of the tool finish it might have been a skew chisel (or perhaps a spindle gouge):

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The finish wasn't quite as good in the area around the knot:

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I used the spindle gouge to shape the end and then did some sanding:

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It got flipped around and I did a little bit of work on the wider end but not too much as I wanted to leave the rings (from the original bowling ball finish) in place if possible:

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Next up was the handle. This started out as a cuboid stick of Ash. I turned it round with a roughing gouge then did the rest of the shaping of the 30 mm section with the big skew chisel:

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The handle got shaped with the spindle gouge:

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That's the bit I expect to be most different between my mallet and my other half's one. I also wouldn't be surprised if I decide that this first attempt isn't quite the right shape, but I won't know that until I try to use it.

With the basic shape of the handle turned, I cut a long slit in the end, using one of the vices in my portable workbench as I couldn't use the main bench due to the lathe being in the way:

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A bit later I decided that slit was a bit narrow so I widened it by clamping it mostly shut and using the bigger Ryoba (which has a thicker plate):

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To make a wedge, any sensible person would probably start with a bandsaw or perhaps table saw. I don't have a table saw and my bandsaw table is currently piled high with clutter that I need to tidy up. If I were sensible, I would have tidied up the bandsaw and then used it for the wedges. Instead I decided to just have a go at making a wedge with a #4 and a slightly fiddly set-up on the portable workbench:

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The resulting Wenge wedge:

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I slathered the wedge in liquid fish glue and tapped it in. It didn't go very far in!

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I hadn't been that sure of which orientation to put the wedge in (the grain direction on the Lignum Vitae wasn't especially clear-cut). Although I hadn't hit it very hard, I noticed that a slight crack had appeared in the head:

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I'm a bit concerned that the result of that crack might be a mallet that breaks apart in use, but only time will tell. Worst-case, I've got two more Crown Green balls to play with! To mitigate the risk a bit, I poured some thin superglue into the crack and left it overnight for both glue types to set. Interestingly, when I came back in the morning it was really quite difficult to spot where that crack had been so I guess it had closed up quite a bit.

After carefully sanding off the superglue overspill, I sawed off the excess wedge and then cleaned up the two ends of the mallet using my recently-made lathe mounted sanding disc:

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You can just about see the path of the crack in that photo if you look closely: it's much fainter than it was in the previous picture.

That (being 80 grit) left a rough finish but it was quite quick to sand it smoother by hand. I was going to finish it in the usual Mike's Magic Mix but couldn't find it (as I said earlier, the workshop needs a tidy up) so I used hard wax oil instead. The finished mallet:

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I'm not sure what caused that green colour in the Ash grain; that's real, not just a photographic oddity. End view:

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That's a lovely looking mallet. I also use a Thor mallet for most chiselling but I'm trying to get into the habit of using a cylindrical mallet for carving. The obvious benefit is that it doesn't matter which way you pick it up and hold it so it does save a bit of time.
 
As an aside, has anyone tried to add weight ( heft) to a mallet by burying a lump of steel or lead in one?
 
Very nice use of a LV bowl. Evidently crown green and flat green bowls do have a slightly different bias in their shape. I have quite a few flat green bowls in need of a project.

His and hers mallets could set a trend,
 
Thanks for posting the photos of this mallet as you progressed the working of it 🙂. I've got a couple (with cracks) and one without... I did had eight but sold the other five. So... I've got three to turn into mallets - at some point.

I'd hazard a guess that the lines in the end grain of the Ash handle may be from sanded dust off the Lignum Vitae... The dust can make an extremely good filler for the crack should it become more evident so be sure to save some... just in case 😉
 
Nice one Al, I like my LV mallets they are a nice weigh.
I do flat tops on mine so you can plonk them down on the bench and they stay where you leave them.

Pete
 
That's a lovely looking mallet. I also use a Thor mallet for most chiselling but I'm trying to get into the habit of using a cylindrical mallet for carving. The obvious benefit is that it doesn't matter which way you pick it up and hold it so it does save a bit of time.
Thanks Nick. I'm interested to see how I get on with it. It won't get used (by me at least) until after I've put the lathe away - I've only got one bench (unless you count the portable one or the travel tool chest) so stuff being hit will have to wait until the lathe is hanging from the rafters again.
 
As an aside, has anyone tried to add weight ( heft) to a mallet by burying a lump of steel or lead in one?
I've never tried or thought of it (although I've added lead weight to other things for other reasons). The Lignum Vitae is pretty heavy so I can't imagine it would really need any extra weight.
 
Very nice use of a LV bowl. Evidently crown green and flat green bowls do have a slightly different bias in their shape. I have quite a few flat green bowls in need of a project.

His and hers mallets could set a trend,
Until I read that I hadn't even realised that flat green bowls were a distinct thing to crown green ones. I know nothing about bowling!

I found this one really satisfying as a fairly quick project. The main reason was the cylindrical bit on the handle - turning that to a fairly smooth but snug fit in the Forstner hole went really well and was done entirely with the skew chisel. No catches, no cutting more off than intended, just a very straightforward exercise. Previous skew adventures have been a bit more hit and miss.
 
I'd hazard a guess that the lines in the end grain of the Ash handle may be from sanded dust off the Lignum Vitae... The dust can make an extremely good filler for the crack should it become more evident so be sure to save some... just in case 😉
You may well be right. It only showed up after I'd left the oil to dry overnight, but it could easily have picked some environmental dust up: my dust extraction regime is not great - an air fed mask to protect my lungs but otherwise just the garage door being wide open. The big dust sheet that hangs over the tool wall makes a big difference, but there's still dust over everything else!
 
Nice one Al, I like my LV mallets they are a nice weigh.
I do flat tops on mine so you can plonk them down on the bench and they stay where you leave them.

I'm really looking forward to trying it out. Mine has a flat top too, but only in the Ash bit - the sanding disc brought it down to a flat surface (then refined with finer sandpaper) so it stands up on end easily enough.
 
Nice, Al.

I'm not sure weight is a great advantage in a mallet. If you're using it a lot, weight just makes your arm tired. In my experience, if you're needing weight to force a chisel through something, then you're either biting off more than you can chew (ie attempting to remove too much material in one go), or your chisel is blunt.

I have to say that I think your wedge is quite a lot too steep. When wedging tenons mine always end up a lot thinner than yours (ie the ratio of length to width is quite different).
 
I have to say that I think your wedge is quite a lot too steep. When wedging tenons mine always end up a lot thinner than yours (ie the ratio of length to width is quite different).
I think you're almost certainly right. The "shaft" was a fairly good fit in the hole so there wasn't much room for it to expand at all. I think I need to work on my wedge-making technique (or just clear the bandsaw table & use that!)
 
I think you're almost certainly right. The "shaft" was a fairly good fit in the hole so there wasn't much room for it to expand at all. I think I need to work on my wedge-making technique (or just clear the bandsaw table & use that!)
With wedged tenons, I would flair the mortise to make space for the wedge and give a real dovetail shaped tenon/wedge combination. However, I guess that's not really possible with a round tenon as the wedge only expands the tenon in one direction. I wonder if there's any merit in using a square tenon in mallets like this?
 
Nice, Al.

I'm not sure weight is a great advantage in a mallet. If you're using it a lot, weight just makes your arm tired. In my experience, if you're needing weight to force a chisel through something, then you're either biting off more than you can chew (ie attempting to remove too much material in one go), or your chisel is blunt.
The other issue of course is that frequently belting an expensive chisel(s) with a lignum maul is going to damage the end of the chisel handle in pretty short order. Some years ago I turned a one piece tapometer out of a bit of Yew and whilst the mallet on it's striking face is showing distinct signs of abuse (denting) the ends of my Richter chisel handles are still pristine.

Your'e correct though Mike; even a medium weight maul makes your arm tired but my Yew mallet was definitely needed last week to cut out the waste from some dovetail sockets where the timber used was Holly which is somewhat denser than Oak or Walnut - Rob
 
Nice detailed WIP.
I too have a lignum vitae bowl that's been waiting for several years now. I think that when I get round to it, I'll gratefully learn from your experience and won't bother with a wedge, even a slender one. If the fit is right, there's plenty of glue area between handle and head, and after all, it's a mallet not a sledgehammer.
 
Nice little project Al, I have a bag of balls waiting somewhere, I also have a bag of 'plastic' type balls. I reckon they might trash most cutting edges except carbide.
 
Very nice Al, I wondered if the green? Marks on the end were caused by the blue dusty residue from the disc sander, I’ve seen similar from red discs.
Personally I think I would have finished the top off with a nr4, quite satisfying doing really hard end grain.
 
Very nice Al, I wondered if the green? Marks on the end were caused by the blue dusty residue from the disc sander, I’ve seen similar from red discs.

Maybe, although it seems remarkable uniform. I'm quite tempted to cut up an off-cut of the same ash and see if it changes colour in the same way regardless of handling.

Personally I think I would have finished the top off with a nr4, quite satisfying doing really hard end grain.

That's a good point, I don't know why I didn't think of it (given that it's what I would have done had it been a mortice & tenon in some bit of furniture or whatever).
 
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