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For a very long time I’d been waking up in the morning and through the night with an extremely dry mouth. Open mouth, lying on my back and snoring for England will do that. LOML had been telling me that I snored loudly and heavily. Various snoring apps confirmed this and listening to some of them was embarrassing. The good thing was that I’d wake with the duvet virtually unruffled, I was sleeping that soundly.

So I finally got round to trying the old tennis ball trick. It worked! Loud snoring went down from many hours to just over 1. My mouth no longer was dry. I woke more refreshed. Mind you the duvet had clearly been in the wars as my body while asleep had tried to roll over onto my back but the tennis ball made my subconscious sleeping roll me back onto my side or front.
 
Interesting Rodger, never tried that method. My wife and I have been sleeping in separate rooms for 8 years now due to my snoring.
She would always wake me to stop snoring, she could never get a good nights sleep.
Her waking me up prevented me from a good nights sleep. Problem is solved.
Talking to other friends and people the separate sleeping arrangement is common.
 
duke said:
Interesting Rodger, never tried that method. My wife and I have been sleeping in separate rooms for 8 years now due to my snoring.
She would always wake me to stop snoring, she could never get a good nights sleep.
Her waking me up prevented me from a good nights sleep. Problem is solved.
Talking to other friends and people the separate sleeping arrangement is common.
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Absolutely. Separate rooms = good nights sleep. Our previous house was about 3x the size of this one and so there was a large distance between my snoring and the missus. But now being much, much in closer proximity my snoring was problematic.
 
duke said:
Interesting Rodger, never tried that method. My wife and I have been sleeping in separate rooms for 8 years now due to my snoring.
She would always wake me to stop snoring, she could never get a good nights sleep.
Her waking me up prevented me from a good nights sleep. Problem is solved.
Talking to other friends and people the separate sleeping arrangement is common.
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My wife and I have also been sleeping in separate rooms for some time. She snores... I snore... Bit of a problem when going on holidays and sharing the same bed/room... not pleasant for either of us.

For the past couple of months I/we have tried the chin straps that are supposed to help keep your mouth closed - or not allowing it to drop open as much. I'm unable to say if it works but I don't wear it for too long. I've a beard and find the material my chin rests in becomes irritated and wakes me up. There's another *age related* problem also that wakes me... now ive got older.

Just now trying one of those pillows to see if that will help stop the snoring - too early to say.
 
Mike G said:
........it involves wearing pyjamas, so I'm out.
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Not at all. I made a simple length of cotton with a pocket into which the tennis ball goes. It wraps round me twice and gets tied.
 
Hypnotic Chimera said:
I use a magnetic nose insert. I think it helps.
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I thought that you needed a ferrous material for a magnet to stick so it sounds a bit like snake oil.

RogerS said:
Not at all. I made a simple length of cotton with a pocket into which the tennis ball goes. It wraps round me twice and gets tied.
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I suppose now living way down south you don't need the thermal long johns and a mankini with a pocket works, just don't answer the door or go outside to put the bins out before changing.
 
duke said:
How does that work HC.
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It's a small supple plasticy/latexy horseshoe shape, with a very small magnet in each end.
You wear it like a bull's nose-ring - inserted in your nostrils - it grips each side of the nostril septum cartilage - the magnets are strong enough to keep it secure overnight.
No idea "why" it works but it does reduce the amount of snoring - apparently - not 100% - but good enough for my Mrs to normally get disturbed less than before.
 
😳😳 and - in my innocence, I thought most of the previous posters were "normal"....now, I learn of bondage, insertions and Gawd-only-knows-what is the 'new normal'. 😳

I lead such a sheltered life: proper flannel jammies, just turn on my left side to stop snoring; my right ear is my bad one see, so with my other (good) one in the pillow, can't hear a thing!


Edit: in fairness to those who don't know me and my sense of humour: I live alone. 😊
 
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Separate beds and rooms = a very good nights sleep.
Did the sleep clinic thing a couple of years ago.
Sleep apnoea - stop breathing 20 times a night for up to 30 seconds. At least it stopped the snore!
CPAP machine - tried different masks, fought with them and the pipe for 3 months, stopped and switched machine off. You are going to die in any case!

PJ's? a 30 year old tattered T-shirt and jocks.
 
Yea, I have done three sleep clinics over 30 years Phil. Wore all the latest cyborg head gear and nothing helped, actually I slept worse.
No problem sleeping now that I have my own room. Well yes the problem is at the other end of the house.
 
Scott, question ............
What will you down at the lake house?
One bed, two people .........................
 
My wife snores like she wants to fell a whole forest each and every night, so we sleep in separate rooms too. Best decision we ever made. Good thing we don't have neighbours. The funniest thing was when she complained about me snoring (which I did, but not even close like her). To prove my point I made a sound recording of her with the sound of a metronome in the background to compare. You should have seen her face!

Visited the sleep clinic myself countless times. My pulmonologist found out I have a severe case of sleep apnoea. I know I sleep very badly. I have for my whole life. But even when I sleep it is not good. I stop breathing about 60 times per hour (no, that's honestly not exaggerated). Never noticed myself though. Weird isn't it?

So I had to try all kinds of devices to fix that. Not one did help in the least. I hated those things. Made me sleep even worse. Ever time they kept saying "you have to keep trying a few weeks more with this one". Yeah, sure...

After a couple of years another specialist suggested I do a neurological scan while sleeping. Wish I had met that men years earlier. Turns out I have a neurological disorder preventing me from reaching the REM phase. Every time I fall too deep into sleep something misfires and I am back in the lighter stages of the sleep cycle again. Somehow it stops me breathing when that happens too. I wish I could explain why, but I can't. Nor can the specialists. It just happens. I always believed REM sleep was essential for your health, but it seems you can do without.

Duke, too bad you don't sleep on your back. Maybe headphones with ANC would have been an option then for when you are sleeping in the cabin?
 
Phil said:
Scott, question ............
What will you down at the lake house?
One bed, two people .........................
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I have been thinking about this for some time, it will be an issue. Guess I will give it a try and hope for the best or sleep on the floor with the dogs.
 
HdV said:
My wife snores like she wants to fell a whole forest each and every night, so we sleep in separate rooms too. Best decision we ever made. Good thing we don't have neighbours. The funniest thing was when she complained about me snoring (which I did, but not even close like her). To prove my point I made a sound recording of her with the sound of a metronome in the background to compare. You should have seen her face!

Visited the sleep clinic myself countless times. My pulmonologist found out I have a severe case of sleep apnoea. I know I sleep very badly. I have for my whole life. But even when I sleep it is not good. I stop breathing about 60 times per hour (no, that's honestly not exaggerated). Never noticed myself though. Weird isn't it?

So I had to try all kinds of devices to fix that. Not one did help in the least. I hated those things. Made me sleep even worse. Ever time they kept saying "you have to keep trying a few weeks more with this one". Yeah, sure...

After a couple of years another specialist suggested I do a neurological scan while sleeping. Wish I had met that men years earlier. Turns out I have a neurological disorder preventing me from reaching the REM phase. Every time I fall too deep into sleep something misfires and I am back in the lighter stages of the sleep cycle again. Somehow it stops me breathing when that happens too. I wish I could explain why, but I can't. Nor can the specialists. It just happens. I always believed REM sleep was essential for your health, but it seems you can do without.

Duke, too bad you don't sleep on your back. Maybe headphones with ANC would have been an option then for when you are sleeping in the cabin?
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Sleeping on my back causes the snoring, always on my sides preferably the left side. The only time I wake during the night is to use the toilet.
A neurological disorder, who would have thought?
 
Yeah, me and the specialists were surprised as well. Sadly, they have no idea what to do about it. But, on the positive side: I am rid of those infernal devices!

Would otoplastics tuned to the frequency of the snoring be an option? I seem to remember reading there are soft plastic versions that maybe are suitable for sleeping with?
 
HdV said:
............To prove my point I made a sound recording of her with the sound of a metronome in the background to compare. You should have seen her face! ...............
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There lies a potential fast track divorce route. ;)
 
Ha, indeed! :LOL: With any other wife you may have been right. But I am lucky enough to have one that is great. I adore her to bits. And sometimes I even dare think the feeling is mutual.
 
duke said:
Mankini ? I need to get out more
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HdV said:
My wife snores like she wants to fell a whole forest each and every night, so we sleep in separate rooms too. Best decision we ever made. Good thing we don't have neighbours. The funniest thing was when she complained about me snoring (which I did, but not even close like her). To prove my point I made a sound recording of her with the sound of a metronome in the background to compare. You should have seen her face!

Visited the sleep clinic myself countless times. My pulmonologist found out I have a severe case of sleep apnoea. I know I sleep very badly. I have for my whole life. But even when I sleep it is not good. I stop breathing about 60 times per hour (no, that's honestly not exaggerated). Never noticed myself though. Weird isn't it?

So I had to try all kinds of devices to fix that. Not one did help in the least. I hated those things. Made me sleep even worse. Ever time they kept saying "you have to keep trying a few weeks more with this one". Yeah, sure...

After a couple of years another specialist suggested I do a neurological scan while sleeping. Wish I had met that men years earlier. Turns out I have a neurological disorder preventing me from reaching the REM phase. Every time I fall too deep into sleep something misfires and I am back in the lighter stages of the sleep cycle again. Somehow it stops me breathing when that happens too. I wish I could explain why, but I can't. Nor can the specialists. It just happens. I always believed REM sleep was essential for your health, but it seems you can do without.

Duke, too bad you don't sleep on your back. Maybe headphones with ANC would have been an option then for when you are sleeping in the cabin?
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How did they do that scan? Curious to know
 
HdV said:
Ha, indeed! :LOL: With any other wife you may have been right. But I am lucky enough to have one that is great. I adore her to bits. And sometimes I even dare think the feeling is mutual.
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Likewise, we've been married for 53 years, (where did that time go?). So apart from her ver clearly having very good taste, ;) she has the patience of a saint and has to where I'm concerned. That said I still wouldn't be keen on recording her snoring in tune to a metronome. She might be only 5ft tall but can still pack a punch. :ROFLMAO:
 
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I always sleep on my side and I still snore. You can count on the fingers of one hand the number of good nights sleep I've had in the last several years.
Revently I went to see a sleep specialist. My French is improving all the time, of course, but technical conversations are always more difficult than daily coversations. Fortunately he spoke quite good English, so we muddled through quite well in Franglais.
He asked me a whole load of questions and totted up the score:
No sleep apnea,
No drug use,
Notrestless leg syndrome,
No anxiety
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Borderline depression. Well you'd be depressed if you not slept properly for several years. I don't feel depressed (and I do know what feels like). But apparently I scored 8 and 9+ = depression.
I see him again in March. Meanwhile I am taking slow-release Melatonin. I' dalready tried a Melatonin tablet, but he said it was the wrong sort of Melatonin. Go figure.
The first two nights were fantastic and I thought, for a moment, that I had finally found a solution. But now, a month or so later, it's back to waking at 2, 3, or 4 amand not getting back to sleep for 3 or 4 hours, and sometimes not t all. Today I've been awake since 4am. I shall persevere with them. They cast about €1 per night, so it's affordable and a bargain if it actually works.
He told me that it is not addictive because it is produced naturally by the body, but I've since read a couple of articles which don't paint such a rosy picture. Some studies, curently unconfirmed re suggesting it raises the chance of heart failure as well as gastric problems.
I don't think there is a silver bullet.
Tonight, I have clean sheets on the bed, a too-hot bath waiting for me now and I just hope that I sleep the sleep of the righteous. It makes such a difference on the rare occasion that I do sleep well. Snoring or not.
S
 
RogerS, I had to sleep overnight in the hospital a few times for that. I had to try to sleep with something looking very much like a helmet made from the skin of a recently electrocuted hedgehog on my head. Lots of wires. Yeah, like I would ever sleep with such a contraption on my head... But funnily enough I did manage to get a few hours, which is not even that bad for me.

I also had to sleep in a machine that monitored my brainwaves while I had stickers with sensors stuck to my skin. It was explained to me that the machine was similar to an EEG, but more adapted to monitoring over a period of hours. The sensors on my skin were to register muscle movement, which gave them information what my nervous system is doing when I sleep.

During those tests one of the things they noted was a complete lack of REM sleep. Now, that in itself is not such a surprise, because in some cases that can be an effect of sleep apnoea. But in my case they found out it was the other way around. Cause and effect were reversed. What made them investigate further was that normally REM sleep is impacted by apnoea, but not completely impeded. At first hey were thinking there might be something wrong with my cortisol levels, but those were perfectly fine. They still haven't found what what is causing it.

I am one of the lucky ones though, because I seem to have few of the negative effects that are normally associated with a lack of REM sleep. I am not even grumpy (I think). But, like Steve, I am prone to be awake at times people should be fast asleep.

P.S. Sorry for this unintended hijacking of your thread.
 
HdV said:
RogerS, I had to sleep overnight in the hospital a few times for that. I had to try to sleep with something looking very much like a helmet made from the skin of a recently electrocuted hedgehog on my head. Lots of wires. Yeah, like I would ever sleep with such a contraption on my head... But funnily enough I did manage to get a few hours, which is not even that bad for me.

I also had to sleep in a machine that monitored my brainwaves while I had stickers with sensors stuck to my skin. It was explained to me that the machine was similar to an EEG, but more adapted to monitoring over a period of hours. The sensors on my skin were to register muscle movement, which gave them information what my nervous system is doing when I sleep.

During those tests one of the things they noted was a complete lack of REM sleep. Now, that in itself is not such a surprise, because in some cases that can be an effect of sleep apnoea. But in my case they found out it was the other way around. Cause and effect were reversed. What made them investigate further was that normally REM sleep is impacted by apnoea, but not completely impeded. At first hey were thinking there might be something wrong with my cortisol levels, but those were perfectly fine. They still haven't found what what is causing it.

I am one of the lucky ones though, because I seem to have few of the negative effects that are normally associated with a lack of REM sleep. I am not even grumpy (I think). But, like Steve, I am prone to be awake at times people should be fast asleep.

P.S. Sorry for this unintended hijacking of your thread.
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You certainly haven’t hijacked my thread👌
 
The specialist prescribed pills for restless legs and a sleeping pill.
Waste of time and money, both did not agree with me.

This is wired up for the first night. You do actually get some sleep.
Next morning I was advised to spend another night with a CPAP monitoring.
Shopping centre across the road from the hospital, bought some snacks and a bottle of wine to make their dinner more palatable. :)

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RogerS said:
Absolutely. Separate rooms = good nights sleep. Our previous house was about 3x the size of this one and so there was a large distance between my snoring and the missus. But now being much, much in closer proximity my snoring was problematic.
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Absolutely. My problem wasn't so much snoring but insomnia, now sorted out mainly through sleeping in separate rooms and observing strict guidelines about my room (black out curtains, no LED alarms etc etc) SWIMBO does snore a bit and that was enough to prevent me from getting off to sleep - Rob
 
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