• Hi all and welcome to TheWoodHaven2 brought into the 21st Century, kicking and screaming! We all have Alasdair to thank for the vast bulk of the heavy lifting to get us here, no more so than me because he's taken away a huge burden of responsibility from my shoulders and brought us to this new shiny home, with all your previous content (hopefully) still intact! Please peruse and feed back. There is still plenty to do, like changing the colour scheme, adding the banner graphic, tweaking the odd setting here and there so I have added a new thread in the 'Technical Issues, Bugs and Feature Requests' forum for you to add any issues you find, any missing settings or just anything you'd like to see added/removed from the feature set that Xenforo offers. We will get to everything over the coming weeks so please be patient, but add anything at all to the thread I mention above and we promise to get to them over the next few days/weeks/months. In the meantime, please enjoy!

Conversion - bathroom to en-suite

The shower tray trap proved very hard to do up and seal properly. There was nothing for it but to go downstairs and open up the ceiling to see what was causing the issue. Turned out to just need a little adjustment on the outflow connector.

But.....and this will make some of you happy...!!...I found that one of the compression joints that caused so much kerfuffle earlier in the thread was leaking....yes, I know, I know.....I can hear the 'I told you so' and I apologise...you were right. So I ripped it all out and fitted a run of solvent pipework. That drip is a legacy drip. Nothing to see here !

The other reluctant realisation is that that ceiling needs overboarding and replastering. Just a wee problem. Full of furniture and nowhere to put it.

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I'd be tempted to put an access hatch there when you sort the ceiling Roger. Sods law you'll board it over and one day will need to get at it. Happened in my son's house a few years ago so I put a small hatch in his kitchen ceiling, just in case.
 
Another area where short adjustables that have a wide opening ability come in usefull is with the pump isolation valves.
Sorry to back track, but the last pump valves I needed to get off I used an 18” Stilson with a 4’ scaffold pole on the end.

And all my special “plumbing” spanners are just old open ended ones which I have picked up over the years, grind off the faces to fit the nuts and shorten the legs.
 
Here are a few photos ( already posted on the 8mm drill thread) of current State of Play


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Latest problem is that Matki's QA has slipped since we last bought from them. The metal component of the side panel has been bonded 2mm out which means that the screw-holes do not line up with the wall mount. They need to send an engineer out with a Dremel, a small diamond grinding wheel, some larger washers, a bottle of Talisker for me and a decent bunch of flowers for LOML as I cannot make any more progress and it would have been finished by the end of today.
 
I told Matki that I was unable to get either the old door downstairs or the replacement upstairs and that it was a two-man job. The two original guys who delivered the original shower could not have been more helpful. Well, private company and so customer service featured very high on their agenda.

The Matki 'jobsworth' just left. Thank you Matki. I will modify the wall frame with a Dremel so the old side panel can be secured. Matki have until close of play tomorrow to collect the replacement door. Saturday morning the hammer comes out. Yes, I am grumpy.

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Morning Mr Grumps. ;)

Doesn't smashing it to bits give you the problem of disposing of all the broken glass? If they don't collect by your deadline I'd just be putting it outside and sending them an email stating if not collected by a certain date they'll be receiving an invoice for cost of disposal.
 
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Further to the above, Matki are sending out a senior engineer tomorrow which is pretty damn impressive customer service, IMO.
 
I hate the term engineer misused.
Germany have the right idea.

I guess that I could be wrong and he is chartered
I have an internal chuckle whenever I see an advert on Sky about electrical, plumbing, or gas engineers. By U.S. and German standards, these labor categories might be technicians, depending on the formal education, apprenticeship time, and certification.

The term "engineer" is a legally protected title in Germany with substantial penalties for misrepresentation.
 
He came. He struggled. Started to force in screws at an angle. Gently suggested that was not ideal. They have a QC issue. We agreed on that. But I need to crack on. So out with the Dremel. Wait for some compensation.
 
Please correct me if I'm wrong, will the friction and chatter of the Dremel not cause the tempered glass to explode.
Or is the panel laminated glass ?
 
Please correct me if I'm wrong, will the friction and chatter of the Dremel not cause the tempered glass to explode.
Or is the panel laminated glass ?
A fair point but I’m working on the all metal frame fixed to the tiles. It’s harder to do than I thought
 
Oh, my misunderstanding. Hope it goes well.
Thank you. Got there in the end but not helped by the awful fixing screws they use and/or the malformed thread in the frame fixed to the glass.
 
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Thank you. Got there in the end but not helped by the awful fixing screws they use and/or the malformed thread in the frame fixed to the glass.
It regularly surprises me that manufacturers supply such garbage screws for people to use to fasten their products, reflects badly imo.
 
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Absolutely - such a false economy. I had the worst screws I've ever encountered a few weeks ago, on a 914mm barrel bolt, so *lots* of screws. Every single one looked like the miscast head you occasionally encounter in a box of otherwise perfect screws.
 
The saga (debacle?) continues. We went for a rimless design. Having sweated buckets installing it...one of those totally enclosed jobbies where you have to fit everything together then slide it onto the soil pipe blind andhope there are no leaks.

The design has to be spot on else the rimless design sends a large volume over the edge and onto the floor. Guess what ours does ? Yup....all over the effing floor.

The casting of the lid is crude and there are a couple of ribs to stop it sliding off. Only they made the ribs wedge shaped which means that when you put the lid on, the side of the wedge hits the infill valve resulting in a constant feed of water into the system/overflow.

Bloody annoying as we wanted a toilet with a short front to back due to space constraints.

I rejected it this evening., Now we have to start looking all over again. This will be the third effing toilet for the bloody en-suite
 
Amazing how the sub-conscious part of the brain works. I went to sleep mithering about this and in the morning went back to first principles. Speed of the water swirl in the toilet is driven by the head of water in the cistern (I think). The instruction leaflet is very precise as to water level height inside the cistern. That duff lid interfering with the infill valve meant that the water level was too high ergo too high a velocity in the 'swirl' ergo swirling over the edge of the rim and onto the floor.

Removing the lid thus ensuring the correct water level = no overspill = result

The only problem remaining is the lid. I tried grinding some of it but it just sniggered back at me. Probably wrong type of blade. But I've put a call out to the suppliers
 
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